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Harikesa Swami

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W* Page contained potentially libelous text about a living person. Not neutral. RobertC - Hari (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

• Question: What in the article is potential libel? --A More Perfect Onion (talk) 14:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
• Note - Previous AfD was closed as keep for Robert Campagnola here. I suggest any editor must remove ANY potential libel text immediatelly without a delay. There have been no evidence from any secondary sources to suggest that Robert_Campagnola is the same living person as Harikesa Swami, at least I could not find any. I suggest that this article is kept but any reference to any Campagnola is removed. Morever I have seen unconfirmed claims that this Swami has died in 1998. Wikid^as© 15:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 16:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I do not want to have the article deleted. The website clearly states that it is the same person. http://www.robertcampagnola.com/content/about.txt?883 How to make sure this article is kept? Can somebody help? Rob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Campagnola (talk • contribs) 17:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

As an example of the vandalism surrounding this article and others related to it, someone has signed that they are Robert Campagnola. This is untrue. Robert Campagnola has never written that last comment. I should know as I am him. I have added historically accurate information into the history of Harikesa Swami. If you do not like this information and cannot tolerate that someone could have done something worthy of historical note in 30 years, then kindly agree to delete this page. I did not create it, I do not want it. However, if it must be there, then it should at least be true and relevant. If the only relevance that you can conceive of is that this person was initiated into a religious movement, then he took some medicines and then left the movement, then there is another agenda here and this is not neutral, neither does it fit within the category of being historically relevant to Hinduism. Further, there is no URL that confirms the identity of Robert Campagnola and Harikesa Swami. Try pasting the bogus URL into a browser and see what you get. The link is fake from a fake person. This details the idea that systematic vandalizing of the history fits into someone's agenda. Hari 23:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hinduism-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• Keep - AFD started by the person the article is about, in dispute (see attempts to wipe the page in the past). Previous AFD failed. Let's move on! - Chopper Dave (talk) 07:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
• Keep Notable per cites brought up in previous AfD Wikidas pointed out. Libel is a reason to delete that statement, not the whole article. Neutrality is a reason to rewrite those portions (and I have tagged it NPOV). VernoWhitney (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
• Note - however I suggest that since an editor and the subject of the BLP is raising a request that the article about him is deleted, I suggest it could be done. There are other avenues to it, better than AfD. It is done by communication. On the type of material that can be kept see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people/Content‎. It was me to put up the article for AfD first time. I still see no realiable good sources in the article that give any light on the subject, who actually wants the article about him removed. I suggest this may override any reasons of AfD itself as to the existence of the article, but it is not automatic. So even if Devamrita' Dave is voting to Keep, he needs to make sure the article is sourced, and he has not done anything to this effect, except of adding whole bunch of material that is not factual (not sourced). Wikid^as© 23:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)