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Non-notable secondary journal from a law school which has not yet published an issue; when it does, it'll be online, not in hard copy. Fourteen Google hits, including Wikipedia. Contested PROD. Glenfarclas (talk) 02:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the article. I have an interest in the article as a member of the organization it is about. I have added a number of additional references to the article to prove that it is notable. The fact that AJELP is an online journal should not make it non-notable, if anything it should make it more notable as there are very few purely online journals and it is predicted that they will become the norm soon. [see http://faculty.law.pitt.edu/hibbitts/lastrev.htm]. Wikipedia has a whole article dedicated to the idea of [online magazines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_journal]. If anything it is ironic to make this argument on wikipedia. Moreover, it clearly meets [wikipedia's general notability guidline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability#cite_note-0]. It has received both ["Significant coverage" http://uanews.org/node/30194]. The [UA News http://uanews.org/about] Article is reliable and independent. Even though it is produced by the University that AJELP is affiliated with, it is run by editorially independent professionals and it is well established. Moreover, the article contains a number of insignificant coverage references from reliable and independent sources that support the article's facts.ArizonaLaw (talk) 03:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note - The UAnews is a University newspaper Shadowjams (talk) 03:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Journals, particularly online only, are not notable without outside coverage. Secondary journals at law schools may be notable, but only if there are external reliable sources that indicate the journal, as opposed to a mere citation. Moreover, a new, unpublished, and online secondary journal is not. For those unfamiliar, most law school journals are published by students, with oversight by the facility. I am not sure about this journal, although most are, with some exceptions. While this does not itself make it non-notable, it provides some context. Shadowjams (talk) 03:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - [List of environmental law reviews and journals|Student-run environmental journals] are cropping up at law schools all over the country. Some of them are better-established than others and even the best established journals (see, e.g. Tulane Environmental Law Journal) have had little or no independent media coverage. This makes it difficult for any journal, even the most legitimatem to achieve the notability standard set forth in the deletion criteria. My own University of Washington Law School is working to establish a student-run environmental law journal, although it hasn't left the ground yet. I see no reason why AJELP should be removed, especially in light of the national trend. 24.18.227.247 (talk) 04:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 :* '''Note''' - The UAnews is a University newspaper [[User:Shadowjams|Shadowjams]] ([[User talk:Shadowjams|talk]]) 03:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' - Journals, particularly online only, are not notable without outside coverage. Secondary journals at law schools ''may'' be notable, but only if there are external reliable sources that indicate ''the journal'', as opposed to a mere citation. Moreover, a new, unpublished, and online secondary journal is not. For those unfamiliar, most law school journals are published by students, with oversight by the facility. I am not sure about this journal, although most are, with some exceptions. While this does not itself make it non-notable, it provides some context. [[User:Shadowjams|Shadowjams]] ([[User talk:Shadowjams|talk]]) 03:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
-*'''Keep''' - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_environmental_law_reviews_and_journals Student-run environmental journals] are cropping up at law schools all over the country.  Some of them are better-established than others and even the best established journals (see, e.g. [[Tulane Environmental Law Journal]]) have had little or no independent media coverage.  This makes it difficult for any journal, even the most legitimatem to achieve the notability standard set forth in the deletion criteria.    My own [[University of Washington Law School]] is working to establish a student-run environmental law journal, although it hasn't left the ground yet.  I see no reason why AJELP should be removed, especially in light of the national trend. [[Special:Contributions/24.18.227.247|24.18.227.247]] ([[User talk:24.18.227.247|talk]]) 04:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' - [List of environmental law reviews and journals|Student-run environmental journals] are cropping up at law schools all over the country.  Some of them are better-established than others and even the best established journals (see, e.g. [[Tulane Environmental Law Journal]]) have had little or no independent media coverage.  This makes it difficult for any journal, even the most legitimatem to achieve the notability standard set forth in the deletion criteria.    My own [[University of Washington Law School]] is working to establish a student-run environmental law journal, although it hasn't left the ground yet.  I see no reason why AJELP should be removed, especially in light of the national trend. [[Special:Contributions/24.18.227.247|24.18.227.247]] ([[User talk:24.18.227.247|talk]]) 04:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)