Talk:Health Level 7

For a previous deletion debate on this article, please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/HL7.

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Shouldn't "HL7" be a Redirect to "Health Level 7". It is currently backwards, IMO.

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Clarification

In the article, "HL7" appears to be a single organization and multiple organizations at the same time. This, and that fact that it is also a technical standard, make it difficult for the unfamiliar - like myself - to grasp what it is. If "HL7" has multiple meanings, that should be stated prior to giving the meanings. Can anyone more familiar with this suggest a change? Edwardian 15:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

HL7 is one organisation. Then there are several national user groups. Then there are the standards, or specifictions in HL7 lingo, namely HL7 2.2, HL7 2.3, HL7 2.3.1, HL7 2.4, HL7 2.5, HL7 3.0, CDA, and CCOW. --Pjacobi 15:50, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)

National user groups are called "International Affiliates", which may include a paid Secretariat, similar to HL7 HQ in Ann Arbor.

HL7 is also described as a "language" in this article. Lyle 21:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

How to obtain free copy of version 2

Your article references that versions prior to 3 can be obtained free of charge. Can you tell me where I could get a copy?

Thanks Rick

rick@hi-techsoftware.com

I don't believe v2 docs are free of charge. See hl7.org, you can purchase documents there Lyle 21:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

arden syntax

Arden styntax is not as useful as purported. really, it is just an academic exercise.

There are some commercial applications, but based on how well known it is I would not debate your first sentence. Lyle 21:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Neutral POV

This article is strongly worded towards a non-neutral POV. If I was a stronger Wikipedian, I would tag this as non-neutral. Lewisham 03:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:HL7.gif

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Verbatim text

The second and third paragraphs of this article (those that begin "HL7's Mission" and "HL7's Strategies") and at least a couple of sections ("Stated goals of HL7" and "Involvement with HIPAA") are copied verbatim from the hl7.org website (see here and here). I'm no copyright expert, but I don't think this is permitted at WP, is it?

Also, it's not clear to me if this article is supposed to be about the non-profit organization Health Level Seven, Inc. or about the concept of HL7. Aside from the verbatim text I cite above, much of the rest of the article seems to paraphrase the content of the hl7.org website.

I'm no HL7 expert, otherwise I would be willing to rework the article to WP standards. Do we have any experts out there? --Sanfranman59 20:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you and have started to clean up the article; I hope my initial effort is an improvement. I also removed some cited facts that point to sources that do not support the claims, and noted some facts that need citations. While I do not disagree with most of them, I have been unable to find any sources for those I noted. If I can't find sources I will remove the uncited facts; If the original authors can help find current citations I'd appreciate it. There is a lot of information on HL7 missing; I am working to summarize and organize the information before making further edits. Randyest

Minimal Lower Layer Protocol

The page Minimal Lower Layer Protocol redirects here, but this page contains no information about MLLP. --220.233.33.170 02:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Rewrite

The article has been reorganized.. and duplicate material ahs been removed. 85.144.186.105 (talk) 08:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

External Links

Wikipedia is not a link repository. The External Links section is decaying into one. I have at least un-bolded the links that Neotools people put in to their own site. I was on the edge of removing them altogether. Gschadow (talk) 17:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Weird date format

In the section on Finland it says "Phased deployment is scheduled for 2008-2011." What does that mean? 20th of November 2008? Why the weird format?

V3 Messaging subsection contains no information on messaging

The tile of this subsection is misleading, as the text contains no discussion of messaging at all. I've renamed the subsection to better reflect its contents. A subsection that discusses messaging (e.g., using XML) should still be written. Ross Fraser (talk) 01:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Why 7?

I'm tired so may have missed this, but I can't see an explanation of the name anywhere in the article. Why "Health Level 7"? Were there 6 earlier levels or something? 81.159.61.104 (talk) 02:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Good point. It's like we're in seventh heaven :). It's a now anachronistic reference to OSI 7-layer model: layer 7 is Application Layer. Gschadow (talk) 23:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Academic resources of HL7....

• http://scholar.google.com.hk/scholar?as_q=health+level+7&num=10&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_occt=title&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_sdt=1.&as_sdtp=on&as_sdts=5&hl=en

--222.64.214.234 (talk) 09:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

ISOs....

• Talk:Electronic medical record#ISO of the topic....

--222.64.214.234 (talk) 10:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)