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Thanks for the message, I can understand your frustration, but that is no excuse for [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]]. At least two editors have explained Wikipedia's inclusion criteria to you. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, not a primary or secondary source for every new "idea" that comes along. The article was insufficiently sourced to demonstrate the notability of the subject - that was the feedback you were given, but you chose to ignore it and move the draft to mainspace anyway. It was speedily deleted as promotional based on the previous AFD, but, even had it not been, it would almost certainly have ended up at AFD again. So, please listen to the advice you are being given, work up a new draft in userspace with a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], cite your references properly and ask again for feedback. Remember, there is no rush and [[WP:DEADLINE|no deadline on Wikipedia]]. Hope this helps. – [[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message, I can understand your frustration, but that is no excuse for [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]]. At least two editors have explained Wikipedia's inclusion criteria to you. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, not a primary or secondary source for every new "idea" that comes along. The article was insufficiently sourced to demonstrate the notability of the subject - that was the feedback you were given, but you chose to ignore it and move the draft to mainspace anyway. It was speedily deleted as promotional based on the previous AFD, but, even had it not been, it would almost certainly have ended up at AFD again. So, please listen to the advice you are being given, work up a new draft in userspace with a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]], cite your references properly and ask again for feedback. Remember, there is no rush and [[WP:DEADLINE|no deadline on Wikipedia]]. Hope this helps. – [[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 14:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Tertiary sauce? My stomach hurts [[User:Mikemahalo|Mikemahalo]] ([[User talk:Mikemahalo#top|talk]]) 15:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Mikemahalo, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Fabrictramp | talk to me 03:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Mikemahalo. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Current_requests.
Message added 03:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Fabrictramp | talk to me 03:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 09:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Mikemahalo. You have new messages at Fabrictramp's talk page.
Message added 15:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Mikemahalo. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Current_requests.
Message added 01:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Fabrictramp | talk to me 01:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Mikemahalo. You have new messages at Fabrictramp's talk page.
Message added 00:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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Your message on my user page

Thanks for the message, I can understand your frustration, but that is no excuse for personal attacks. At least two editors have explained Wikipedia's inclusion criteria to you. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, not a primary or secondary source for every new "idea" that comes along. The article was insufficiently sourced to demonstrate the notability of the subject - that was the feedback you were given, but you chose to ignore it and move the draft to mainspace anyway. It was speedily deleted as promotional based on the previous AFD, but, even had it not been, it would almost certainly have ended up at AFD again. So, please listen to the advice you are being given, work up a new draft in userspace with a neutral point of view, cite your references properly and ask again for feedback. Remember, there is no rush and no deadline on Wikipedia. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tertiary sauce? My stomach hurts Mikemahalo (talk) 15:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]