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I'll work on these as soon as I have some more time. Any further suggestions for expansion and cleanup would be appreciated. |
I'll work on these as soon as I have some more time. Any further suggestions for expansion and cleanup would be appreciated. |
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[[User:CRobey|CRobey]] 17:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC) |
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I strongly recommend against merging UCR with NIBRS. They are very different approaches to crime statistics and should remain separate. According to the FBI (see http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/faqs.htm) not even a quarter of the data collected by the UCR program (about 16%) came from NIBRS as of 2004. Granted, that was six years ago, but considering law enforcement agencies are generally slow to change, and there are major budget problems, I would not be surprised if that figure hasn't changed much. [[User:Ometecuhtli2001|Ometecuhtli2001]] ([[User talk:Ometecuhtli2001|talk]]) 22:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC) |
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===Criticism of the UCR=== |
===Criticism of the UCR=== |
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I have boldly attempted clean up of this section. See what you think.[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 00:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC) |
I have boldly attempted clean up of this section. See what you think.[[User_talk:Dlohcierekim| :) Dlohcierekim]] 00:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Cleanup and Expansion
A couple things I think still need to be done with the article
- Indexes should be discussed in the intro and separate sections on part I and II offenses should be created
- Most of the information in the index section is incorrect
- e.g. lack of legal definition, Part I and II are not differentiated by arrest and report but are different types, etc
- Merge Index offenses article(stub) into this article, consider redirect
- Expansion of History section, Clearance rate, Validity, Future merger with NIBRS
I'll work on these as soon as I have some more time. Any further suggestions for expansion and cleanup would be appreciated. CRobey 17:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I strongly recommend against merging UCR with NIBRS. They are very different approaches to crime statistics and should remain separate. According to the FBI (see http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/faqs.htm) not even a quarter of the data collected by the UCR program (about 16%) came from NIBRS as of 2004. Granted, that was six years ago, but considering law enforcement agencies are generally slow to change, and there are major budget problems, I would not be surprised if that figure hasn't changed much. Ometecuhtli2001 (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Criticism of the UCR
I have boldly attempted clean up of this section. See what you think. :) Dlohcierekim 00:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's pretty good. I might expand on it when I get the chance. The ranking of crimes by seriousness is known as the hierarchy rule, which I have a little information about it that I can put in. I have a couple journal articles which talk about the 'dark figure' of unreported crimes in regards to the UCR. As for the rape, they do list it as a crime specifically against females. For males they consider the crime either an assault or sexual offense, which are Part II crimes.
- The reason the UCR only list rape as females by males is that in California the law is written as female by male and I am sure that many other states laws are similar.
- No it isn't. The criminal code in California which defines the elements of rape is PC 261, which begins: "Rape is an act of sexual intercourse accomplished with a person not the spouse of the perpetrator, under any of the following circumstances..." The legal definition of a crime and the UCR definition of a crime are two totally different things. Ometecuhtli2001 (talk) 22:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
UCR vs NCVS Image
I added an image I created from 2003/2004 UCR and NCVS data
UCR violent crime arrests: 586,558 (2004)
UCR violent crime reported: 1,367,009 (2004)
NCVS violent crime reported: 5,401,720 (2003)
It wasn't quite to scale. The two UCR sections are slightly larger than they should be, but I think it still gives the same idea. The unknown factor assumes an extra ~500,000 unreported violent crimes (conservative estimate). I think it's fairly representative but would be happy to modify it if anyone has suggestions. CRobey 18:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Wiki Vandalism (20/06/07)
This is currently the talk page where an international en WP user lands after entering a search request for "report vandalism" on the main page. You should fix that for those who want to report vandalism on the wider project. I am tired of the worthless, counter-intuitive help files here.
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Question
Has there been any research done into false reports to the FBI for UCR by local jurisdictions? The reason I ask is because the former sheriff of Caroline County, Virginia is claiming that he had 90% of his cases solved when he was sheriff and I noticed that the national clearance rate for violent crimes is only 45.5% and for property crimes is only 16.3% in 2005.