Talk:Eurovision Song Contest

Bloc voting

Countries with large populations of non-nationals may have their televote influenced considerably. This has been cited as the reason for apparent bloc voting in the Balkan countries of the former Yugoslavia.[91]

This is full-blown crazy. What does "non-nationals" mean? These countries have similar cultures and speak the same languages. The stars in Croatia are popular in Serbia and vice versa. People are nationals of their countries in the largest proportion in each of those countries (there are some refugees in each of those countries, but that doesn't really explain why Croatia would always give the highest no. .of pts to Serbia, or Macedonia to Serbia, where there was no conflict to speak of). For example, I'm a Bosnian Serb and me voting for a Croatian or a Serbian song is not unusual. But I'm not a Bosnian non-national. I have the passport of BiH, and my family has never lived in Serbia in history. It's really about mutual intelligibility -- which is why Scandinavian bloc votes for each other all the time. It's the language and sensibility.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.121.160 (talk)

Category of EV contest up for deletion

This may interest some of you. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Artists Section

Udo Jürgens, may have been been overlooked because of a slight german bias. Nicole had exactly ONE hit, then retired and is in the section, whereas Jürgens has sold 100 million records and isn't. --Snottily (talk) 13:09, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Map showing number of wins: Germany

There is no need to say Germany hasn't yet won, just because Nicole's victory was for West Germany and not re-unified Germany. It's the same state, still called Federal Republic of Germany. In 1990, the GDR ceased to exist, and the territory then joined the Federal Republic. No new state was founded at all. So this should be changed. Rudefuss (talk) 22:41, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you. Germany is Germany. Even before reunification, it was rare to hear about "West Germany" in the Contest - people simply said "Germany". Can someone please go ahead and change the map? EuroSong ^talk 11:07, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Germany was the Federal Republic then and still is since 1949. There is no difference why making this difference because of the territory? Yugoslavia moght be different because there rose new independent states and the old entity broke up.--Tresckow (talk) 01:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Musical style and presentation

"Also the use of low cut tops and short skirts to attract a higher male vote an example would be Armenia's entry for 2010, Eva Rivas.[86]" This needs editing to remove the reference to Armenia. Although the reference [86] may comment on these issues, the Armenian singer wore trousers, and her top could not be described as "low cut". Perhaps another, appropriate, example could be provided.