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::I did a quick research on this problem regarding the editing of the nickname and found this article [http://www.vanityfair.com/online/fairplay/2010/05/slovakia-the-fighting-jondas.html Slovakia: The Fighting Jondas] written in Vanity Fair. Further research has led to the following articles from ESPN [http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/blog?entryID=5323401&name=worldcup2010blog&cc=3888&ver=global 1], The Australian [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/world-cup-2010/lets-finally-do-away-with-socceroos/story-fn4l4sip-1225877912999 2], Goal.com [http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2890/world-cup-2010/2010/06/15/1977963/world-cup-2010-slovakia-coach-vladimir-weiss-bitterly 3] and Soccerlens [http://soccerlens.com/match-report-paraguay-2-0-slovakia/48188/ 4]. In all of the articles there is no doubt left as to the Slovakian team being refered to in this matter (The Australian article actually makes it a point to say that). I am also satisfied there are plenty of sources regarding this and that more could be found. I will go ahead and use some of the references here to cite the teams nickname.[[User:GaussianCopula|GaussianCopula]] ([[User talk:GaussianCopula|talk]]) 21:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
::I did a quick research on this problem regarding the editing of the nickname and found this article [http://www.vanityfair.com/online/fairplay/2010/05/slovakia-the-fighting-jondas.html Slovakia: The Fighting Jondas] written in Vanity Fair. Further research has led to the following articles from ESPN [http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/blog?entryID=5323401&name=worldcup2010blog&cc=3888&ver=global 1], The Australian [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/world-cup-2010/lets-finally-do-away-with-socceroos/story-fn4l4sip-1225877912999 2], Goal.com [http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2890/world-cup-2010/2010/06/15/1977963/world-cup-2010-slovakia-coach-vladimir-weiss-bitterly 3] and Soccerlens [http://soccerlens.com/match-report-paraguay-2-0-slovakia/48188/ 4]. In all of the articles there is no doubt left as to the Slovakian team being refered to in this matter (The Australian article actually makes it a point to say that). I am also satisfied there are plenty of sources regarding this and that more could be found. I will go ahead and use some of the references here to cite the teams nickname.[[User:GaussianCopula|GaussianCopula]] ([[User talk:GaussianCopula|talk]]) 21:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
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::Further research has yielded this interesting article from the Slovakian press where the author is also confused as to why Slovakian fans don't know anything about the "Fighting Jondas" or "Bojujúci Jondovia" in the Slovak language. And the article attributes it to an american ad agency called Wieden and Kennedy. [http://futbal.pravda.sk/prezyvka-slovenskych-futbalistov-bojujuci-jondovia-tvrdia-americania-1nc-/sk-fms2010.asp?c=A100609_175507_sk-fms2010_p43 Prezývka slovenských futbalistov? Bojujúci Jondovia, tvrdia Američania] (article in Slovak). There might be enough material here for creating a section in the main page regarding a possible controversy or simply the origins of the nickname. Hopefully someone with a good understanding of Slovak can contribute. |
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::Nevertheless the nickname (whether attributed to them by Slovak fans or an american ad agency) is without a doubt being used freely and with regards to the Slovak national football team. As can be seen in the sources provided above plus in languages other than English as can be read in this Danish article from Ekstra Bladet in a box profiling the Slovakian team [http://ekstrabladet.dk/nationen/article1368176.ece 5].[[User:GaussianCopula|GaussianCopula]] ([[User talk:GaussianCopula|talk]]) 21:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC) |
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== Biggest Defeat == |
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The article is at odds with the infobox as to what the first game as Slovakia was...
Team Nickname
The team nickname is given as "The Fighting Jondas". But what does this mean in English? What is a "jonda"?
Flonto 20:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I never heard of this nickname, it does not even sound Slovakian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.136.164 (talk) 11:51, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- it was probably joke, the nickname is unknown --Vegetator (talk) 06:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Jonda or Janda is the name they called Czechoslovakian immigrants --Ivan Kzevac —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.121.53 (talk) 01:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Fighting Jondas is Fake. Im from Slovakia.--Dodko999 (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
This "nickname" was something fabricated by ESPN Marketing (via AM I Collective studios in South Africa) for their World Cup Murals series. In Slovakia, the national team is simply referred to as "Repre," as in "representation." Alternative explanation is that they (marketing studio) came to this English language page for the national team and took it from here. Regardless, the name is not used at all in or around Slovakia for the national team and should be removed from this encyclopedia as well. Disastorpasztor (talk) 04:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for my english. please lock this page for unregistred user, because nickname is always change. --Dodko999 (talk) 08:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Why? Simple, I suggest N/A - slovak national team has no nickname. Repre is slang (or slang short version "representation") and can have a lot of sence, but definitely it is not nickname. Similar incorect nick name is given in czech team. It contain just Nation team transleted to Czech —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.5.210.202 (talk) 10:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- I did a quick research on this problem regarding the editing of the nickname and found this article Slovakia: The Fighting Jondas written in Vanity Fair. Further research has led to the following articles from ESPN 1, The Australian 2, Goal.com 3 and Soccerlens 4. In all of the articles there is no doubt left as to the Slovakian team being refered to in this matter (The Australian article actually makes it a point to say that). I am also satisfied there are plenty of sources regarding this and that more could be found. I will go ahead and use some of the references here to cite the teams nickname.GaussianCopula (talk) 21:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Further research has yielded this interesting article from the Slovakian press where the author is also confused as to why Slovakian fans don't know anything about the "Fighting Jondas" or "Bojujúci Jondovia" in the Slovak language. And the article attributes it to an american ad agency called Wieden and Kennedy. Prezývka slovenských futbalistov? Bojujúci Jondovia, tvrdia Američania (article in Slovak). There might be enough material here for creating a section in the main page regarding a possible controversy or simply the origins of the nickname. Hopefully someone with a good understanding of Slovak can contribute.
- Nevertheless the nickname (whether attributed to them by Slovak fans or an american ad agency) is without a doubt being used freely and with regards to the Slovak national football team. As can be seen in the sources provided above plus in languages other than English as can be read in this Danish article from Ekstra Bladet in a box profiling the Slovakian team 5.GaussianCopula (talk) 21:54, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Biggest Defeat
The team that played against Argentina in Mendoza was not Slovakia National Team. It was Slovak league representative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZERONICKNAME (talk • contribs) 17:11, 24 March 2010 (UTC)