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The X Factor Fansite

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""Save"" per nom The article is still being worked on and was supposed to be in a mode, I thought I would receive editing help in its current place. Yes the website was established in 2001, and the article itself was 1 day old. I am compiling as many facts as possible relating to mentions, accomplishments, communications with major media, contributions, however I am trying to figure out how to reference my material, since some of the sources are located in emails. One example, not covered by the press, but effecting people whom watch music videos was the non stop demonstration against: wife beating, suicide, arson, and other anti-social behavior, which was seen in Leona Lewis's first album release video "Bleeding Love". (Leona Lewis was a winner on the x factor TV show) Due to the constant protest at thexfactor.com fansite, a new video was made, in compliance with the requests made in the fansite protest. The fan site had no formal apology from syco, fremantle or Leona Lewis's management or record label, although through protest (Protest was only being done via thexfactor.com) changes were made, and a new video released. If you look on youtube, you can find the old version and the new version with the changes from thexfactor.com fan site protest. At the time of the protest, The x factor fansite was receiving 20,000 unique visitors a day

• (leona lewis original bleeding love video before protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJZnx5pMzl4&feature=related)
• (leona lewis after protest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzo-EL_62fQ) --Robtencer (talk) 04:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

""Save"" per nom WP:WEB Please take additional notice that thexfactor.com is a not for profit blog, and seeks no financial incentive. --Robtencer (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

""Save"" per nom WP:WEB The wikipedia page follows within the standards of WP:WEB and does not violate any conditions. The article is not an advertisement, and is not using wikipedia as a web directory. The article is also non duplicated content, made specific for the wikipedia page it exists. This is why it is taking time to edit. The article conforms to the criteria of WP:WEB, because notable high traffic sites like news of the world, amongst others have referenced articles as the source of the information being thexfactor.com fan site. The article has historical significance, since the fan site is constantly singled out by the BBC, and ITV for being the primary fan site for fans of the x factor. (emails stating this from BBC and ITV).--Robtencer (talk) 05:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Non notable fansite, does not seem to pass WP:WEB. I couldn't find any major media coverage of it. Also its only sources seem to be external links to the official website, facebook, youtube channel and twitter of The X Factor. Mauler90 _talk 02:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment This article has also been speedy deleted 3 previous times under a slightly different name in the last several days. Mauler90 _talk 02:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

That name is The X Factor Fan Site, and this is its log.   — Jeff G. ツ 03:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

• Thats right Jeff, the only reason those animals did not do a speedy delete on this page as well, is I believe they were sleeping, and temporarily left their computer deleting station.

I also have challenged that deletion as well, but there is nothing left to look at, as the animal admins completely removed the page. they were not as kind as you or Mauler90, and they for sure did not follow the rules of a valid contesting of removal. Instead of giving me 7 days, they gave me minutes, before ganging up on me and removing the article. It did not look like what it looks like now, nor will it look like it is today, later tomorrow. It is a work in progress, and is being updated daily. Thanks for pointing out all the facts, but you must agree, that some admins are ruthless, and not helpful to new contributors. unless the help they are giving is to get lost.

There is no listing of major media coverage, because the page is 1 day old, not the blog. Give us a chance to add something, before speedily removing.Robtencer (talk))

Other editors have edited and removed what was bothering you: i.e. categories that lead nowhere, please remove your nomination, for delete (These are factual and verifiable sources dealing with the article topicRobtencer (talk))

Dear Mauler90 and other Admins with quick trigger fingers to destroy, and vandalize through nominating for removal, that which you did not create.Robtencer (talk)

There is no listing of major media coverage, because the page is 1 day old. Give us a chance to add something, before speedily removing.Robtencer (talk)

Also, Dear Mauler90, I have become very defensive, because unlike yourself, admins have made speedy delete tags on my work, without discussion. If you are willing to discuss the matter, I would be most appreciated. Perhaps you have not read the article, and don't understand the significance or importance of a FANSITE. Robtencer (talk)

If fans supply the content, and major media refuses to cover their story, and thexfactor.com fan site does give them coverage, does not that have merit for the little guy?Robtencer (talk)

Delete per nom. Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. Has no visible verifiable references from reliable sources. This is not surprising, given that the fansite is only one day old.   — Jeff G. ツ 03:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Delete Promotion, no credible indication of notability through notice in independent media, which is unsurprising if the site's a day old (which is not a valid reason to keep). Wikipedia is not a place to get noticed, it exists to document notability that already exists. "If major media refuses to cover the story", then it has no business being on Wikipedia per WP:RS and WP:WEB. Acroterion _(talk) 03:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Further Comment I believe the author is referring to this article only being a day old. The article states that it has been established since 2001. Mauler90 _talk 03:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Delete. The article has a lot of content rehashing material about the subject of the fansite, rather than concrete information on the fansite itself. Fails WP:INTERNET. Taroaldo (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

How much traffic does it get, and where can we verify that?   — Jeff G. ツ 05:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

The site was hacked and offline for some time, and lost hundreds of old posts, and many links on other media websites were removed due to the broken links. The rebuilding phase is going on. Traffic stats are available at alexa, which should give a rough estimate. --Robtencer (talk) 05:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)