Talk:Kurds in Syria

Biased

Article is one sided and should undergo major improvement. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 17:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

No evidence is provided for the one-sidedness claim.Heja Helweda 01:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm? The people who have been arbitrarily denied the right to Syrian nationality in violation of international law. part is one. Who says this violates international law? Its strtictly a domestic issue. Factual acuracy can be disputed too, actulay.

A neutral tone would not be "Kurdish human rights activists are mistreated and persecuted" but would be "AmnestyUSA claims Kurdish human rights activists are mistreated and persecuted."

--Cool Cat^Talk|@ 23:01, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I can list examples line by line: Suppression of ethnic identity of Kurds in Syria include.... Who says this is suppresion? --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 23:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems that your concern is on wording of the article not the content because there are already many neutral and relaible references in the article. I'm not sure but just suggesting: Is not this tag better? {{POV-check}}. Diyako Talk + 00:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

What? I did not pay attention that time. Human Rights watch says it is Suppression! Sorry. Xebat Talk + 20:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Category: Kurdish Inhabited Region

The catgeory does not apply to this article as Kurds in Syria is about a group of people not a region.Heja Helweda 03:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Neutralized article

I just finished removing bias from this article. It is notable that almost all of the article was violating copyrights. I rewrote the article and neutralized it. The claims of suppression are not facts, they are claims fro certain organizations and that should be always noted. The background of the citizenship controversy was included; it is clear that the creator of the article, or the section, presented the issue in an anti-Syrian, one-sided way. Please discuss any changes here before making them. Regards, Anas ^talk? 15:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

There is no "Syrian Kurdistan", you are inventing it!!!

Who said that northeastern Syria is called Syrian Kurdistan?!! When you say so, you give the impression that Kurds are the only inhabitants of that region, which is completely untrue. I live in northeastern Syria and particularly in Hassakeh and Kurds are not the only inhabitants of this region nor they form the majority there. There are other ethnicities like Armenians, Chaldeans, Syriacs, Assyrians and Arabs or Shawaya as we call them here. Unfortunately I don’t have a reliable reference to include but I LIVE THERE and this is a live testimony. You are an encyclopedia, that means that you have to be neutral and away from any political agenda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.178.224.165 (talk) 11:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it called Syrian Kurdistan, of course not by the Arabs! This article is about the term "Syrian Kurdistan" not just "Kurds in Syria" it's about the land since ancient times not only people, whether its official or not, and yes there are other ethnics just like anywhere in the world but the majority are Kurds. Tittle change request to Syria Kurdistan.

There is no area named "Syrian Kurdistan", not now, or any time in history. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The term does exist. Suppport a name change. Any dissenting views, such as the personal beliefs of SD (supposted by RS of couse, e.g. Anthony Hyman), can be included within the article. Chesdovi (talk) 20:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

There are many "terms" that exits, but a "Syrian Kurdistan" does not exist and has never existed. "Kurds in Syria" on the other hand do exit. This is not my personal believe, but something factual. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

You may be of the opinion that as a geographical region "Syrian Kurdistan" "does not exist and has never existed", but that does not matter. The term does exist, as Anthony Hyman has written in Elusive Kurdistan, the struggle for recognition, pg. 11:

"Thus it is not so much "Syrian Kurdistan" which exists, as a variety of distinct Kurdish regions in Syria." Chesdovi (talk) 22:57, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

As I said, many "terms" exist, this doesn't mean that they exist in reality. The majority of Kurds in Syria are newly arrived from Turkey, see this source p 475: [1]. Should the "Europe" article be renamed to "Eurabia" just because some extreme minority people call it that? "Eurabia" is not a real location that exists in reality, same thing with the extreme minority people who call a region in Syria: "Syrian Kurdistan". The scope of this article and how it was started was about the Kurdish people in Syria. Neither "Eurabia" or "Syrian Kurdistan" can be found in the CIA factbook. This is because they do not exist in reality, and never has. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 23:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point Eurabia may not be a phyisical, real entitiy, but the term exists and has a encylopeadic meaning. Same with SK. Chesdovi (talk) 01:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think you understood what the guy above wrote, but just in case you missed it I will put it here for you again (You may be of the opinion that as a geographical region "Syrian Kurdistan does not exist and has never existed". The term does exist, as Anthony Hyman has written in Elusive Kurdistan, the struggle for recognition). Why there isn't any "Arabs in Syria" page? First of all the Kurds are native ethnic in Syria, they're not immigrants, secondly we're not talking about how big the land or the population is to tell me that "Most" of them are from Turkey. The Truth is Syria's Kurdistan does exist, and I know it's small. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XxDestinyxX (talk • contribs) 18:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I suggest we change this page back to Syrian Kurdistan. Chesdovi (talk) 14:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

As I said above, the scope of this article and how it was started was about the Kurdish people in Syria. It was only recently renamed to "Syrian Kurdistan". "Kurds in Syria" gets 160 000 google hits compared to the term "Syrian Kurdistan" that gets 7 020. This shows what the name of the article is the most appropriate. There is also already an article about the term Kurdistan. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 22:39, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Migrated to North eastern Syria from Turkey??

It says in the demographics that the kurds in Syrian kurdistan came from Turkey. Thats not true the kurds is Syrian kurdistan has always been there.