User talk:Xeno

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Question For You

I had no idea where to find it, but I knew that my usurpation request had been denied (let's be honest, I'm still under this nick, aren't I? *LOL*). Early on in the process I had feared it would be a reject because the nickname had edits on other Wikis.

Now, I have only today located the Reject above with both Avi's note and your eventual reject (which I cannot argue). Thus, I have now renewed my effort to establish my identity under my proper identity, which as of April 2011 will be ten years since I adopted anywhere online (that first post as Cyclone occurred at the Armageddon Games forums, now much less active than it was back then). It would be nice to celebrate that 10 years by establishing my identity here as well under my nickname of ten years.

I have taken the steps to contact "Cyclone" at both the RuWiki and the JaWiki. My concerns with these users, however, is that they both appear to be fairly inactive and I worry they may not answer my query even on their own pages, much less my talk page which I asked them to do (I should note that I manhandled the signature to link to my pages instead of signing as an IP there, not a huge deal IMO but I guess we'll see). My query therefore is what happens if they don't respond within, say, a week? Is there anything I can do if they prove to be inactive even to this type of request? I can't read either language on those pages, and have no idea how to convert them, so it would be difficult for me to find my way around their pages; I only located their userpages because, predictably, they follow the same URL format in all Wikis. Requesting usurpation in those Wikis individually would be next to impossible as well (strangely, the contributions pages don't show edits for those, either), so I am just worried about if they don't respond. Maybe I'm putting the egg before the chicken (or whatever order is wrong - do we know?), but I worry about things. =) CycloneGU (talk) 00:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I recently wrote a bit on this at Wikipedia:Handling SUL conflicts. Getting consent is definitely the best bet. FYI you can change the interface to English on those sites and follow "WP:USURP" which will usually get you to the local venue. –xeno^talk 01:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

This might be answered in the guideline somewhere, but I am probably missing it. How do you change the interface to English on the other Wikis? CycloneGU (talk) 04:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Either guess at the buttons to get there, or navigate directly to special:Preferences, the language is on the main preferences page. –xeno^talk 05:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

You might want to tweak your message to let them know they can keep their names on their local wikis (it would mean you would be unable to use your SUL there, but it might make them more likely to consent). We just need them to consent to you taking over the "claim" to the SUL. Since the ja.wiki user has over 1000 edits, I think we really do need to hear from them, and the ru user, before we can proceed. Sorry for the trouble. –xeno^talk 15:04, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Help

I'm an bureaucrat hopeful and I would want like some bureaucrat coaching. May you help me? ~~Awsome EBE123~~(talk | Contribs) 12:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

To date, no one who had not already had a successful RfA has been successful at RfB. So, I would suggest you seek adminship first (see WP:GUIDERFA and WP:PASSRFA for some further reading). And, unlike adminship, the bureaucrat task is relatively simple and would not lend itself well to coaching. Best of luck, –xeno^talk 13:36, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I thought that being an admin was a requirement for becoming a bureaucrat. Looks like I was wrong, but I don't think the community would ever promote somebody who wasn't first an admin to a bureaucrat position :p Also, I think that bureaucrats inherit rights from administrators, so that should be a barrier (but I could easily be wrong about the inheritance). demize (t · c) 23:39, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

It's not a de jure requirement, but is is (pretty much) a de facto requirement. And yes, the bureaucrat package is unfortunately missing a few abilities essential to 'crat tasks, so a bureaucrat has to hang on to their admin tools in order to be fully effective. I tried to remedy this in the past (see also: bugzilla:25752), but unfortunately ran into various inexplicable objections. Might try again at some future date, but for now I need to hang on to the administrator package to be an effective arbitrator. –xeno^talk 23:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Notified Takeo of usurp.

Just letting you know. SixthAtom (talk) 21:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The bot just updated the listing too. It will be processed (if no objections) in about a week. –xeno^talk 22:00, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. ★Takeo™ 22:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear Xeno,

I've just had a very long and helpful discussion with CharlieEchoTango in the chatroom. He helped me get my writing page unblocked so that I could post to you. As you have learned by being so kind to take the time to investigate my situation, I am new to actually participating in Wikipedia. I have been a longtime fan of the site, and one of my favorite things to do has been to use it as one of my favorite research resources. Comedy is a huge part of my life - it's my greatest passion and my second greatest passion is interviews and biographies. Anyway, long story short, I recently decided to take a try at adding comedians and comedy acts that were missing from wiki. Stone and Stone was my first attempt and you know what happened next...just so many misunderstandings and then just one massive frustrating situation - but I'm so grateful for people like you that got involved - your patience and time that you all put into helping - I am incredibly touched by that. I had NO idea wikipedia could get so dramatic, afterall I was doing something on my free time, it seemed like a pleasant activity and a great way to up my tech knowledge! Well, lol, I'll admit that I'm a bit timid about proceeding, but hopefully I'll be more knowledgeable for it than if I had begun and had no conflicts!  :) Hope that all made sense. Anyway, thank you again so very much and I hope to put all of you and your colleagues advice to good use and make y'all proud with my articles to come. Like I said to CharlieEchoTango, I'll be taking a week off until my blood pressure goes down :) but then I'll be looking forward to contributing again soon!

Best Wishes, Comedybiographer (talk) 06:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)