Talk:Law & Order: LA

Which spin-off number?

Well, this has seemed to be a contentious point, hasn't it? The truth is, it depends on which series one counts.

L&O:LA is clearly the fifth American series with "Law & Order" in its title. By the minimum count that makes this the fourth spin-off (as the original wasn't a spin-off of itself).

However, Conviction is usually solidly considered part of the franchise, as it not only obviously occupied the same universe, but actually featured as one of its leads a character created for SVU. In many ways, it is a Law & Order in all but name. But... if we consider Conviction, other series set in the universe without a "Law & Order" title that can be considered less direct spin-offs, such as Deadline, might need to be counted as well. Their connections are weaker, and not likely to be recognized by most, leading to more confusion.

And that's without even accounting for the foreign adaptations. I personally don't count those because they aren't produced by the same companies and mostly adapt pre-existing US scripts (even the UK series), which, in my opinion, makes them less original works. Others might disagree, which could lead to more conflict there.

Avoiding any potential conflict is a good idea, and the easiest way to do that is simply not reference which number spin-off it is. So I endorse the current state of the article that does just that. oknazevad (talk) 03:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Tell me, WHY does it matter? What bearing does it have on the importance of the article? –[[::User:Schmloof|Schmloof]] ([[::User talk:Schmloof|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Schmloof|contribs]]) 04:09, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't. As I said, I agree that we don't need to reference the number.oknazevad (talk) 11:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to be snappy. I completely missed your last paragraph. After carefully reading your thoughts, I think you're thinking along exactly the same lines as me. –[[::User:Schmloof|Schmloof]] ([[::User talk:Schmloof|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Schmloof|contribs]]) 21:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

S'OK.oknazevad (talk) 21:40, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Crime and Punishment was set took place in San Diego

The phrase "Law & Order: Los Angeles is the first American Law & Order series not set in New York City" is not factually correct. There was a 2002 reality television spin-off of Law & Order that consisted of following real cases involving the San Diego DA's office from arrest to conviction/sentencing. That show was called Crime & Punishment. To that end, I would suggest changing this sentence to indicate that this is the first FICTIONAL L & O series to be set in a city outside of New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.139.35 (talk) 05:43, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The use of the word "set" implies fiction. Only fictional works have settings, as only fictional stories are placed into their worlds by creative personnel

More importantly, by being nonfiction, Crime & Punishment wasn't a real part of the fictional L&O franchise, nor did it bear the L&O title. It, frankly, is irrelevant to this article. oknazevad (talk) 10:16, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Title Change To Law & Order: LA

The title of the show has been changed to Law & Order: LA (not Law & Order: L.A.). This is seen in the new promos and on Nikki Finke's DeadlineHollywood