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# '''Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.'''
# '''Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.'''
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. You can post a request for help at an [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|appropriate noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]]. If you continue to edit war, you '''may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing without further notice.'''<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> I suggest you consider self-reverting the blatant [[WP:OR]] and editorial commentary you {{diff|Four-dimensionalism|435182359|435023519|inserted into the article}}.—[[User talk:Machine Elf 1735|<span style="text-shadow:#00FADE 0.05em 0.05em 0.07em;white-space: nowrap;font-family: Fraktur, Mathematica6, Georgia, sans-serif">Machine Elf <sup style="font-size:75%;font-family: Georgia, sans-serif">1735</sup></span>]] 00:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines|talk page]] to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] among editors. You can post a request for help at an [[Wikipedia:Noticeboards|appropriate noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|page protection]]. If you continue to edit war, you '''may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing without further notice.'''<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> I suggest you consider self-reverting the blatant [[WP:OR]] and editorial commentary you {{diff|Four-dimensionalism|435182359|435023519|inserted into the article}}.—[[User talk:Machine Elf 1735|<span style="text-shadow:#00FADE 0.05em 0.05em 0.07em;white-space: nowrap;font-family: Fraktur, Mathematica6, Georgia, sans-serif">Machine Elf <sup style="font-size:75%;font-family: Georgia, sans-serif">1735</sup></span>]] 00:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

>almost always grounds for an immediate block<

the key words being 'almost always' ... not in this case

>I suggest you consider self-reverting the blatant [[WP:OR]] and editorial commentary you {{diff|Four-dimensionalism|435182359|435023519|inserted into the article}}

I have considered and rejected your suggestion: there is no [[WP:OR]] at all in an explanation of what eternalism and presentism mean in semantic terms, and I do not know what you refer to as "editorial commentary"

it ought not to be such an uphill battle to improve an article ... [[User:Stho002|Stho002]] ([[User talk:Stho002#top|talk]]) 01:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback

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Basket of Puppies 02:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henosepilachna vigintioctopunctata

Hi, Stho002
HMOG: that is soooo embarrassing. Great pick-up! And thank you for refraining from giving me a thoroughly well-deserved fishy fisticuff.
--Shirt58 (talk) 10:01, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the talk page. Thanks. Stronach (talk) 12:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikispecies template

Hello, Stho002;

Thank you for adding the wikispecies templates! In the future, could you add them to the end of the article, instead of after the taxobox? Somewhere after the references or works cited would probably be ideal. It isn't usually a big deal, but when an article has a long taxobox and short text, like Taniwahsaurus, putting it after the taxobox apparently forces all of the section editing buttons to come after the template. J. Spencer (talk) 23:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Myuchelys

Please add reliable sources for your additions at Myuchelys. It is part of Wikipedia's verifiability policy to add sources to prove claims. Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit has been reverted for lack of reliable sources, I feel you have edited that page in an attempt to further your opinion on Wikispecies and to taunt Faendalimas, whilst you may find it acceptable on Wikispecies it is by no means acceptable here on Wikipedia. ZooPro 23:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just let this go Stephen you have your way on wikispecies and it is saying what you want and nobody seems to be able to say any different over there. Let wikipedia be, this is not where you usually haunt. You are the one creating a wheel war here. Your edits have no basis in science as they are personal opinion not published opinions. I have not tried to wheel war with you on wikispecies, that behaviour is juvenile. We have spent a lot of time as a team developing the wikipedia pages your not acting as a team member here. Faendalimas (talk) 06:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Steven, I am not going to change this again, unlike you I do not wheel war. However, misquoting my publications is a low act. I in no way said that there was dispute about the legitimacy of Well's papers and neither did Rhodin et al. You have us as the references for one of your statements, a statement that is plain untrue, we did not say that. Now either you are incapable of writing or you are just so desperate to be seen as in the right here that you sink to very low acts as far as academia is concerned. I don't know which but I suggest if you intend to cite my works that you try reading them. In our papers we said "The more recent attempts at nomenclatural action by Wells (2007a; 2007b; 2007c; 2009) are not considered publications for the purposes of nomenclature as they violate ICZN Articles 8 and 9 and Recommendation 8D (see also Fritz & Havaš, 2007). The names that appeared in the documents (Wells, 2007a; b; c; 2009) are not considered available and are not used." You have claimed we said something like "If this is correct, then the name should not be used, but the matter is disputed and the nomenclatural facts are rather unclear." This sentence is attributed to us but we never said that. This is misquotation at its worst. Please fix this. Faendalimas (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is no "low act", just a very small mistake, but it obviously suits your agenda to blow it up out of all proportion. I have removed the offending bit. --Stho002 (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou for fixing it I will accept it was in error. I have requested citations for your statements in your latest revision. Please add published references to the interpretation and analysis of the case. Wikipedia policy does not permit original research.Faendalimas (talk) 23:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiquette

Hello, Stho002. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.. The relevant section is Stho002 and Identity, Four-dimensionalism BrideOfKripkenstein (talk) 05:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Four-dimensionalism. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

  1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. I suggest you consider self-reverting the blatant WP:OR and editorial commentary you inserted into the article.—Machine Elf 1735 00:47, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

>almost always grounds for an immediate block<

the key words being 'almost always' ... not in this case

>I suggest you consider self-reverting the blatant WP:OR and editorial commentary you inserted into the article

I have considered and rejected your suggestion: there is no WP:OR at all in an explanation of what eternalism and presentism mean in semantic terms, and I do not know what you refer to as "editorial commentary"

it ought not to be such an uphill battle to improve an article ... Stho002 (talk) 01:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]