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:May I remind you of Wikipedia's policies about comments on others. By bringing up to discussion the political opinions of the user who nominated the article for deletion, you violate the rules of Wikipedia. What we are interested in here is arguments for or against the notability of the subject, not your personal thoughts about the political views of others. Comment on the subject, not on other users! [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] ([[User talk:Jeppiz|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC) |
:May I remind you of Wikipedia's policies about comments on others. By bringing up to discussion the political opinions of the user who nominated the article for deletion, you violate the rules of Wikipedia. What we are interested in here is arguments for or against the notability of the subject, not your personal thoughts about the political views of others. Comment on the subject, not on other users! [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] ([[User talk:Jeppiz|talk]]) 12:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep.''' Subject more than meets [[WP:GNG]]. And yes, the sources cover her because she's married to the governor. But they do cover her and they cover her extensively, which meets Wikipedia's requirements of [[WP:NOTABILITY]], [[WP:V]] & [[WP:RS]]. —''[[User:Yk Yk Yk|Yk <font color="#DC143C">Yk Yk</font>]]'' <small>'''[[User talk:Yk Yk Yk|talk]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Yk Yk Yk|contrib]]'''</small> 07:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC) |
*'''Keep.''' Subject more than meets [[WP:GNG]]. And yes, the sources cover her because she's married to the governor. But they do cover her and they cover her extensively, which meets Wikipedia's requirements of [[WP:NOTABILITY]], [[WP:V]] & [[WP:RS]]. —''[[User:Yk Yk Yk|Yk <font color="#DC143C">Yk Yk</font>]]'' <small>'''[[User talk:Yk Yk Yk|talk]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Yk Yk Yk|contrib]]'''</small> 07:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete.''' She has done nothing notable on her own. OrangeMike is correct that [[WP:NOT#INHERITED]] is the applicable guideline here. The third-party coverage is ''directly related to her husband'', and perhaps that's what's causing the confusion. The wife of a U.S. President rates an article. The wife of a major party nominee, quite likely. She is neither. She is the wife of a declared candidate. At this point, the information belongs in the [[Rick Perry]] article, and only there. It's there, but oddly it's hidden in the ''Early life'' section. The article is missing the usual ''Personal life'' section at the end, which is used to include spouse, children, personal interests, activities and awards. [[Special:Contributions/99.50.188.77|99.50.188.77]] ([[User talk:99.50.188.77|talk]]) 23:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC) |
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Non-notable politician's wife; fails WP:NOT#INHERITED Orange Mike | Talk 01:06, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. The references cited indicate that she is notable in her own right. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- comment - how? I see nothing that is not from the penumbra of her husband and his office. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. Per the arguments and evidence presented in the prior AfD, which correctly concluded that there's sufficient evidence of her independent notability. --Arxiloxos (talk) 04:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Keep as coverage by reliable third-party sources of her and her activities, not simply as a wife, more than meet the verifiability and notability thresholds. (Let it snow.) - Dravecky (talk) 05:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Delete, non notable wife of politician. Polozooza (talk) 09:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
- Strong delete While some other users have claimed above that she is notable in her own right, they fail to define how. Apart from being a politican's wife, there is nothing notable about her, at least not in the article. She has a master of science degree in nursing, that is hardly notable. She is a member of the methodist church. Not notable either. Apart from being married to Rick Perry, there is nothing notable at all about this lady. Delete and redirect to Rick Perry.Jeppiz (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
- Keep (My previous comments were out of line and I have removed them so as not to distract from the topic at hand. My apologies to Orange Mike and the other editors.) Sincerely, Veriss (talk) 06:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- reply to gratuitous ad hominem attack - Veriss, I'm proud to say that I've nominated for deletion, or argued for the deletion of, dozens of articles about non-notable persons whose politics I find more sympatico than Rick Perry. In fact, I've been assailed for it. Your attack on me for being honest and upfront about my own politics subverts the very concept of full disclosure, and is counter-productive in the extreme, bringing utter irrelevancies into this discussion and violating our expectation of civility in discourse. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- May I remind you of Wikipedia's policies about comments on others. By bringing up to discussion the political opinions of the user who nominated the article for deletion, you violate the rules of Wikipedia. What we are interested in here is arguments for or against the notability of the subject, not your personal thoughts about the political views of others. Comment on the subject, not on other users! Jeppiz (talk) 12:46, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. Subject more than meets WP:GNG. And yes, the sources cover her because she's married to the governor. But they do cover her and they cover her extensively, which meets Wikipedia's requirements of WP:NOTABILITY, WP:V & WP:RS. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 07:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- Delete. She has done nothing notable on her own. OrangeMike is correct that WP:NOT#INHERITED is the applicable guideline here. The third-party coverage is directly related to her husband, and perhaps that's what's causing the confusion. The wife of a U.S. President rates an article. The wife of a major party nominee, quite likely. She is neither. She is the wife of a declared candidate. At this point, the information belongs in the Rick Perry article, and only there. It's there, but oddly it's hidden in the Early life section. The article is missing the usual Personal life section at the end, which is used to include spouse, children, personal interests, activities and awards. 99.50.188.77 (talk) 23:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)