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maybe mention how different cultures/peoples play or use the ney? eg. persian style ney uses the inside of the top mouth to make unique sound (i.e. mention the various unconventional ways of playing the ney)

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Some science people believe that it was firstly found and played by Summerians. Althought, when it comes Ney, many people think that it is a populer Sunni Turkish culture, most powerful Neyzens( who plays the ney )are Shi Turks.

Copyright problems?

This article appears to be taken wholely from http://www.neyneva.com/eng/default.asp GulDan 04:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can any of the contributing editors confirm that they originally wrote the text? The wikipedia article seems to have been written fairly gradually, which leads me to suspect it might be the other way around. But I don't know for sure. --jonsafari 19:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some uncited claims

Hi. I've removed a few sentences from the article, text below. The problems I see with the material is that it's uncited, somewhat opinionated, and weasel-worded. However, the underlying points are interesting and the ney is definitely an unusual instrument, so if we can present these as facts that can be verified, then they'd be a good part of the article. --Ds13 16:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The gentle sound of the ney (wind instrument that produces a sound resembling the flute) calms the nervous system, reduces high blood pressure and tiredness, and promotes good sleep. The ney is believed to awaken a reflective mood, causing a person to appreciate and enjoy nature. It is linked to deep philosophical ideas.

"Related instruments"

I deleted "Related instruments: The Armenian "Duduk", Azerbaijani "balaban", and the Balcanian qernate (gırnata) are instruments used in other parts of the Middle East."

The ney is an end-blown flute. Duduk and balaban are double-reeds, and gırnata is a clarinet, a single-reed. The ney in unrelated to these instruments. Neyzenhasan 21:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Salamiya/salamiyya

The salamiya/salamiyya (small ney) should be mentioned. Badagnani (talk) 19:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

poor article

this article is very poorly written. there are more info on "related instruments" than there is on ney. the main text says that it is one of the oldest instruments, while the info box indicates it was developed by dervish khan recently...it is not up to standards of wikipedia nor it is worthy of ney —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.66.86.137 (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on improving the entry

The article lacks definition of what a ney is. It is and end blown flute (as opposed to a side blown flute). It is held perpendicular to the face, as opposed to other flutes which are played transverse. A ney is basically an empty tube, and the player provides the embouchure. It is traditionally made from a plant, though it is possible to make it from modern materials.

Then there are many neys in different countries which should all be listed. The main ones I'm aware of are Turkish ney, Persian ney, Egyptian ney (which I think is the same as the "Arab" ney), Bulgarian Kaval, a Siberian ney, and a double ney from Baluchistan (2 tubes with holes tied together).

Ney can be blown with the lips (almost all) or with the tongue (Persian ney only, though some Turks claim it is done like that in certain regions there too, I don't know).

I am an expert in Persian ney and have an extensive website (http://members.shaw.ca/persianney) on the subject which should be cited. Feel free to take information from there.

The statement on the page that the holes are arranged by semitones is nonsense. This is not true for any ney.

Arab and Egytian neys have 6 holes in the front and one for the thumb, Persian neys 5 in the front and 1 for the thumb. Not "usually", always!

Regarding objectivity, all these various neys are different instruments, and none should be depicted as better than the other. (Of course I have my personal preference.)

Hope this helps. I'd be happy to help with improving this subject.

Kees (email: persianney@shaw.ca)

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