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{{divbox|purple|Please read these hints before posting here!|Please don't provoke the orange banner by putting mere talkback or "You have mail" templates here. There's no need for them. Gross flattery is very welcome HINT HINT, as are pointless jokes and desultory chat. Also criticism and debate in humanspeech (by warning template, not so much). [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 01:45, 29 December 2011 (UTC).}} |
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== [[User:HJ Mitchell]] == |
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Ooops. Cache wasn't purged. I did check, an outdated version.—[[User:Cyberpower678|<font color=green face=Neuropol>cyber<font color=red>power</font></font>]] ([[User talk:Cyberpower678|<font color=yellow face=arnprior>X-Mas Chat</font>]])([[Special:Contributions/Cyberpower678|<font color=yellow face=arnprior>Contrib.</font>]]) 00:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== just sayin == |
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love what you've done with the place. :-) — <small><span style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>[[User:Ched Davis|Ched]]</b> : [[User_talk:Ched Davis|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> ? </font>]]</span></small> 01:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Doesn't take long == |
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[[File:Road Runner decal 2 Detail.jpg|thumb|Beep-beep]] |
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... to clutter it up again though. |
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Thought you might find some use for this. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 01:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:Hehe. It's Elen's metaphor. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 22:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:Also, compare [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=Fastily&page=User%3AOrangemarlin&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= this edit] (already changed back). Beep beep! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 01:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC). |
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== [[Paul Krugman]] == |
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Perhaps you failed to notice: your revert deleted references used in citations in the main text. I added those citations along with that main-text material in order to (slowly but surely) bring this BLP into conformance with the economist infobox guideline, while also retaining useful (if still underdocumented) information about influences on his work in economics. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Krugman#Reverting_the_infobox_to_Sphilbrick.27s_version] |
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Reply on the Talk page for the article, please, as BLP/3RR requires. I won't be looking here. [[User:Yakushima|Yakushima]] ([[User talk:Yakushima|talk]]) 02:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:As [[Kingsley Amis]], I think it was, wrote in one of his novels: Funny how it's got ruder to say "please" than not. As ''what'' requires? Are you posting on my talkpage and ordering me to reply somewhere else purely to be unpleasant, or is there some real reason? You won't be looking for a reply here.. ? Suit yourself by all means. Anyway: no, I wasn't aware I deleted references in the main text. I'm sorry, that was a mistake. Mind you, IMHO such mistakes are only one of the unwanted likely consequences of a stupid referencing system. (I know it's widely used, but for my money it's massively inconvenient, and militates against both newbs and technically challenged oldtimers such as myself ever editing articles with inline cites.) Could you please return the lost references to the main text yourself? Not being comfortable with that particular system, I don't think I'd do it very well. Sorry to trouble you. If that's a problem, maybe Page Stalker [[User:Famously Sharp]] could help. Famously, may I trouble you? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 22:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:: No trouble, Chère. It's actually a perfect reason for using [[WP:LDR|list defined references]] where the actual reference lives in the ''References'' section and the inline cites are just a named ref. It keeps all of the snot (as Jack would call it) out of the main text and doesn't clog up infoboxes. |
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:: As it happens, I had a look at [[Paul Krugman]] this morning, only to find that [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] had already reverted the overstuffing of the box and cleaned up the references. He's been back a couple of times since, and seems to know what he's doing, so I can do little more than keep a weather eye on the page. I had intended dropping Yakushima a note explaining that edit warring is still sanctionable even short of 3RR, and that there's no entitlement to revert multiple times, <del>even</del> <ins>especially</ins> on the spurious grounds that an editor believes that it's a BLP violation not to mention every single person who influenced the subject (like: oops we forgot to include his Mum). But when I looked, I saw that he'd been blocked by MastCell a few days ago for exactly that same offence. He's skating on very thin ice now, as he clearly hasn't learned from a 24-hour block. Perhaps his next block will convince him. --[[User:Famously Sharp|Famously Sharp]] ([[User talk:Famously Sharp|talk]]) 01:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Yworo doesn't know what he's doing. He reverted edits I made to a section quoting comments from Prescott and Barro, leaving the text less accurate. |
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:::''"an editor believes that it's a BLP violation not to mention every single person who influenced the subject (like: oops we forgot to include his Mum)."'' I don't believe that. If I included every economist Krugman ever mentioned (or whose results he used), the infobox influences list would be several times longer than the longest I ever left it. I have no intention of doing that. Quite the contrary. If, for example, someone actually turned up wording saying that "influences" must only list what Bishonen calls "utterly central", where that is clearly taken to mean "motivated the bulk of the work that made him notable", I'd say Hyman Minsky should be deleted from the list, and possibly a couple of others. And I've even just recently proposed removing "influences" from the infobox entirely, but only ''after'' [[WP:PRESERVE]] has been properly applied, only ''after'' the names (added mostly by others, by the way) have been worked into the text with due weight. For now, I'll just AGF about your assumption that I'm promiscuously adding everybody up to and including "his Mum". If, however, after reading this, you persist in that kind of characterization of my behavior, I will take action to point out your misbehavior to others, for appropriate action. [[User:Yakushima|Yakushima]] ([[User talk:Yakushima|talk]]) 05:54, 22 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::: Yes, thank you for your considered opinion on other editors. I hope you'll forgive me for forming my own opinion, which is that you have no clue about Yworo knowing what he's doing, or that your mischaracterisation of Bishonen's reasonable actions as "misbehaviour" is rubbish. Before you continue threatening Bishonen with "appropriate action", you ought to read [[WP:BOOMERANG]], because – believe me – we've seen plenty of tendentious editors, obsessed with a tiny detail, who think they have to be right and everybody else must be wrong. They don't last long. --[[User:Famously Sharp|Famously Sharp]] ([[User talk:Famously Sharp|talk]]) 12:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Famously, I know the usual thing would be for Yakushima to be threatening ''me'', if anybody, here on my talkpage. But on close inspection, it seems he's talking to ''you'', and about your misbehaviour. :-) [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 12:49, 22 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:::::: Moi? misbehavin'? surely not. You must have me confused with [[User:Darwinbish|some other well-known miscreant]]. --[[User:Famously Sharp|Famously Sharp]] ([[User talk:Famously Sharp|talk]]) 15:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::::@Yakushima: Your various more-or-less wrapped-up threats[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_Krugman&diff=prev&oldid=467124640] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&diff=prev&oldid=467145236] to take people to noticeboards ([[WP:ANI]]?) to get their "misbehaviour" corrected merely show unfamiliarity with wikipedia process; as Rex (Famously) suggests, once wider attention was called to your actions, you'd certainly get an earful of [[WP:BOOMERANG]] and most likely a block and a [[WP:ABAN|page ban]]. (Far from all admins are as patient as MastCell.) But your scornful and embattled (and indirect, which makes it worse) response to Sphilbrick's nice olive branch on your talkpage[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yakushima&diff=prev&oldid=466858531] is in a whole different category: it's simply despicable.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_Krugman&diff=prev&oldid=467124640] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Paul_Krugman&diff=prev&oldid=467164214] This is the last time I speak to you. Kindly don't post on my page again. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 14:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC). |
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==Happy Christmas== |
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Sorry that this is a late greeting but have been somewhat tied up blessing goats etc, but there's still a few minutes to go. Happy Christmas dear oldest Wiki-friend. [[User:GiacomoReturned|Giacomo]] [[User talk:GiacomoReturned|Returned]] 23:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:You're so sweet! I love the tree on your page. Happy holidays! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 23:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC). |
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== Have a great Christmas == |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Have a wonderful Christmas. As [[I Believe in Father Christmas|the song]] says: "I wish you a hopeful Christmas, I wish you a brave new year; All anguish, pain, and sadness Leave your heart and let your road be clear." [[User:ThatPeskyCommoner| <span style="color:#003300; font-family: cursive;">'''Pesky'''</span>]] ([[User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner|<span style="color:#336600;">talk</span>]] …[[Special:Contributions/ThatPeskyCommoner|''stalk!'']]) 00:06, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
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Wow, talk about exotic foods. Are you sure that's not a meatloaf on fire? Merry Christmas to you too, Pesky. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 00:37, 25 December 2011 (UTC). |
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==And another!== |
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[[File:SantaBarbaraOranges.jpg|center|thumb|350px|Merry Christmas from the Antandrus Orchard in southern California, the citrus delight where it snoweth not, and the wine never ceases flowing. Peace and best wishes for 2012! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:07, 25 December 2011 (UTC)]] |
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:Thanks, Ant, you too. I've sent a bishounen to your page to plunder your orchard some more, with best wishes. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 00:37, 25 December 2011 (UTC). |
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== Merry Christmas == |
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[[Fairytale of New York|The boys of the NYPD Choir were singing "Galway Bay",<br>and the bells were ringing out for Christmas Day.]] <p>Merry Christmas! '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]''' <sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 03:17, 25 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Broadening of Project == |
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Dear B, Just responding to your query on my Giacomo request: |
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Problem 2: sorry, I'm not sure I'm following you. You want the WikiProject to have a more inclusive name? That's something you must discuss on the project itself. The project talkpage is indeed the place to propose an expansion of the project and a new name for it. If you get general agreement to your proposal, any experienced user there can "move" it to a new name — doesn't have to be an admin. |
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:No, not for the Project to have a more inclusive name. Sorry for my misleading wording ("top of the page" - doh!). I mean the ABOUT box should include the word animals, so that the SCOPE of the Project is broadened. Animals can be abandoned and fostered too. I have taken this up on the Project Talk Page. By the way, Bishonen, are you an Admin? I have a huge ethical problem that I will be bringing to you in the New Year. Have a good one.[[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 23:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::OK, cool. Right, additions to the "about" box need consensus too, so discussing on talk is the proper action. I see you got your abandoned "cat" adopted very nicely by a couple of parents — most appropriate! :-) Yes, I'm an admin, pretty experienced but better not ask me about anything too technical. You're very welcome to bring me something wiki-ethical, but I should point out that any experienced user that you have confidence in can advise you on such matters. People like Giacomo for example. Admins only have a few extra technical tools; there's no special admin button for ethics! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 01:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:::I'm guessing FClef was asking about broadening [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Adoption, fostering, orphan care and displacement]] to include animals, after he'd added an animal category to [[:Category:Adoption]] - since removed. Makes as much sense as adding veterinary clinics to [[List of hospitals in Australia]] on the grounds that they both treat ailments, just some patients are human and some are animal. [[User:Bastun|<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 19:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Yes, well, I didn't take any position on the appropriateness of parenting the animal abandonment cat to the adoption cat when I talked with FClef. Perhaps I should have, and saved him the disappointment of having his proposed "adoption" rejected, since I did suspect it would get removed. But I didn't want to overwhelm an inexperienced user with information on several levels. S/he asked about a technical process and one of the prospective parents was uncontroversial, so s/he did need to learn about the parenting process — also for future use, of course. I figured, perhaps wrongly, that it was better that the project dealt with the concern about relevance. Sorry that was so annoying for you. I have to say, though, that I'm even sorrier to see you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Adoption,_fostering,_orphan_care_and_displacement&diff=prev&oldid=468054939 severely biting] an obviously well-meaning user. "Insulting", was it? Give me a break. If I had known FClef would get attacked on the project talkpage for their suggestion, I certainly ''would'' have proceeded differently. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 21:26, 28 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:::::Yes, I did find it insulting. I know many adopted people, adoptive parents, and natural parents, and although many of them are animal lovers and one in particular has a habit of taking in strays from animal shelters, none of them, including her, would equate what she does with the adoption or fostering of a child. [[User:Bastun|<span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 00:24, 29 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::FClef didn't equate them either, that I can see, so I still don't see how "insulting" is by any stretch ''le mot juste''. Surely you don't suppose it was his intention to offend? Anyway, since it fact it did offend you, why revert FClef's removal of it? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 00:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC). |
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:::::: What would have been so difficult, Bastun, about showing a little grace, and explaining that your views were different from FClef's? There was no need whatsoever to be that unpleasant with another editor, who was so plainly full of good intentions, simply because their use of the term "adoption" did not coincide with yours. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 01:28, 29 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thank you, Bishon and RexxS. Having written a further comment on the Project Talk Page, I have on reflection deleted the topic. Bastun has behaved entirely inappropriately. There are ways of saying "no". And, for the record, two of my first cousins are adopted. You are right: I was never equating human with animal adoption - I suggested a possible ''broadening'' of the topic. Pointing out the similarities in experience between animals and humans was never designed to equate them in scale. Bastun ignores this. |
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:::::::I resent the public implication that I am inhumane and some kind of monster. I am not happy with having been gratuitously attacked with such a high-handed response. My request was never "insulting" - what, using greetings and polite inquiries? But the reply patently was designed to crush and hurt. I am not happy for such a nasty attack to remain on Wikipedia's pages. |
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:::::::I understand Bastun's sensitivities but not the belittling tone or the unprovoked ungraciousness, nor the apparent malice shown in reverting my edit when I have been sufficiently crushed. I will view any further restoration of the edit as vinctiveness. But then Wikipedia is built on such things. I was briefly bullied in primary school, and recall the experience. |
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:::::::In the last couple of years, in common with many others, I have been conquering depression after watching my mum die. Resuming writing on Wikipedia has been part of my recovery process and I am sorry to have been gratuitously damaged during it. This experience has certainly set me back, but it won't stop me writing.[[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 10:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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{{User:RexxS/Distinguished Podstar|Awarded to Bishonen for comprehensive guidance to an editor in need! }} |
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: I was particularly impressed that you taught FClef how to solve the problems. |
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: As the saying goes, "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him how to fish ... and he spends all day idling around in a boat." Merry Rexxmas --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 01:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | Awarded to Bishonen for service to categorisation in teaching someone else how to manage it, thereby increasing categories. [[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 03:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::Rexxmas is right. I forgot to say "Thanks for teaching me," but the real appreciation is in seeing the new "parents"! By the way, I will bring you not only a a wiki-ethical problem in mid-Jan, but also a formatting one. You have been warned! :-)[[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 03:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Wow, categorisation and the exclusive swimapod too! Thank you both very much. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 05:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC). |
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== Great choice of sunsets... == |
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Wow...tis an honor to have my sunset adorn your usertalk! Neither it nor my mention are worthy of such distinction...but it is kinda purdy...wishing the best to you.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 23:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC) |
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Grr...the upload bot is messing up...as I transfered the image to Commons it locked..can you delete the identical image here at <nowiki>[[File:P1020705.JPG]]</nowiki> as the new but same file is now on your page from the Commons upload I had to do...--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 01:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:Uh? ... Hmm... done, but I have a nasty feeling I probably deleted the wrong one and/or with the wrong rationale — I'm too sleepy to delete stuff this time of night — thanks for changing the image file above, MONGO, and please check I didn't screw up. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 01:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC). |
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::Nope...as anticipated due to your outstanding admin capabilities....[[File:P1020705.JPG]] is now a red link...--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 01:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::LOL, exactly, that's what it was due to. No element of chance at all! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 05:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC). |
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== Back == |
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Dear Bish, It's OK, I'm feeling better, I'm back. Mightily cheered and surprised to receive [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FClef#WP:Kindness_Campaign this]. Thanks again for help; I will still be bringing you various qs in 2012. Have a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year. [[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 00:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Archiving a Talk page == |
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Last question of the year - I am doing Archive 2 by creating a new page, moving the current version to it (by cut-and-paste), and linking to the current version of my talk page. Have reviewed the procedure but there are two questions: |
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* title of new page: User_talk:FClef/Archive 2 (26 September 2007 – 30 December 2011) - is the "Underscore mark" between the words "User" and "talk" required? I used it on Archive 1, but it doesn't seem to be called for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Subpage_archive_method here]. It is, I imagine, OK to include the date range in parenthesis in the title, as I did on Archive 1, and also when linking it to my Current talk page. |
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* the "talk archive" Template - in my old Archive 1, that was written as ''one'' word only, i.e., "talkarchive". However in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page#Cut_and_paste_procedure point 6 here] it is rendered as ''two'' words. Which one? Or does it make no difference? |
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Thanks as always for advice.[[User:FClef|FClef]] [[User talk:FClef| (talk)]] 11:57, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:No, none of it makes any difference. The underscore mark probably just got accidentally imported from an URL (where it's vital). It's never needed in wiki page names, but it also never breaks anything there. Altogether you have lots of freedom to call your archives what you like, as long as they're subpages in your space. User talk:FClef/oldstuff would be perfectly cromulent.. though including date ranges certainly makes it easier to find, er, old stuff. :-) [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 12:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC). |
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==Kindly rephrase== |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility_enforcement/Evidence&curid=34214853&diff=468772555&oldid=468768930#Strange_evidence_submissions This] contains a personal attack; please, would you mind rephrasing it so that it does not wikilink to "anonymous coward". Your comment is valid, it's just the wikilink... <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano| <sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 14:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, no. The wikilink is the point. That's the part I wanted to post, the rest is just framing. Er, did you follow the link? "Anonymous Coward" is a meme, "[[Anonymous post|a term coined by Slashdot]]". How about I remove the rest of the comment and leave just the link? :-) In other words, no, I won't rephrase. Feel free to remove the whole of my post if you wish. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 14:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC). |
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::<s>{{Done|bypassed redirect [[User_talk:Nobody Ent|Nobody Ent<small> (Gerardw)</small>]] 14:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)}}</s> apparently not. [[User_talk:Nobody Ent|Nobody Ent<small> (Gerardw)</small>]] 14:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Quite. I hope you've seen my second edit there. PS: I meant to click on "undo", not, of course, "rollback". My apologies. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 14:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC). |
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::::I think you're being silly. I know I'll just let you two sort this out. (No apology necessary) [[User_talk:Nobody Ent|Nobody Ent<small> (Gerardw)</small>]] 14:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::I've just removed your post, as you apparently prefer to have it removed than rephrased... I indeed followed the link and read it is a meme; however, this does not change the fact that, in my opinion, "coward" is still a personal attack. Had you simply linked to "anonymous post", I would have said nothing. No hard feelings, hopefully. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano| <sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 15:10, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== all set == |
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I'm all set with the [[Wikipedia:Don't be a whiny bitch]] and [[WP:STFU]] copies; I've decided not to use them as evidence as they were not actually in existence all that long and I've found better examples, so feel free to tidy up your talk page however you'd like. <small>[[User talk:Nobody Ent|Nobody Ent]]</small> 14:46, 1 January 2012 (UTC) |
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:OK, good. |