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Revision as of 21:00, 5 April 2006
Naming
G-String short for "genital string"? It sounds highly unlikely to me.
No. It is named g-string beacause of the thickness of the back is about as thick a G string on a cello. The Republican 16:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- This theory has been discounted. -Willmcw 21:44, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thongs linked with urinary tract infection?
Is the assertion that wearing a thong is linked to contracting UTI's (as compared with other underwear styles) an established fact or a speculation? Is there a reference for this? I did a pubmed search for "thong" and "urinary tract infection" (and alternately, "cystitis"), and didn't find anything.
FelineAvenger 21:46, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This article needs pics of Rio girls (barring the urinary tract infection topic)! This is an article begging for visual supplements! 172 17:50, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
Tanga
The current wording suggest that tanga comes from Khoisan (!anºa?). Instead I heard that it is some Amerindian language through Brazilian Portuguese.
g-string etemology
I've read (in Bill Bryson's Made in America that g-string probably comes from an American native term geestring, which was the name of the loincloth or possibly the strings holding them up.
g-string from the violin is almost certainly a back-formation.
- Does Bryson give any source for this assertion? Which language does it come from? Paul Tracy 13:05, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Proper article name
Seems that this article has been moved around quite a lot. The present name "G String" is not properly capitolized, and there seem to be other reasonable names:
What is the most common name for this item? -- Netoholic @ 17:03, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Depends on which country (and sometimes which State) you live in. Most parts of Australia it is a G-string, but in Queensland it's a Thong. Thong is also the most common USAian term. --Settantta 10:02, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I thought that Thong (garment) would be the most common and best name for the article. It appears to have been there and was moved here. Also I agree that it should be "G-string" rather than alternate spellings. In any case, this article appears to need some serious fact checking as that this talk is full of questions of factuality. Let's see what we can cite here and hopefully in the process come up with a proper name and spelling for this. Cavebear42 17:12, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
but in Queensland it's a ThongThat is wrong. That term is never used in QLD. smerkle
g-string etymology
I believe the etymology from the violin string is correct. My understanding is that the "G" string is the thinnest (not the thickest) string on the violin (in fact the thinnest of any stringed instument), so associating the two is actually quite reasonable. (I might add, I first heard this etymology from my mother, who was an English teacher, back in the late 1950s). My understanding is that it is the true etymology (unfortunately, I don't have an OED to check with, although the Concise Oxford does give this very etymology). As an additional bit, the Concise Oxford also capitalizes the "G". --Settantta 10:02, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- FWIW, I have seen "g-string" in hundred year-old books in reference to native Americans. I do not think that they would have been influenced by violin strings. -Willmcw 20:24, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Here's another reference, which implies that the violin connection came later.
- G-string -1878, geestring, "loincloth worn by American Indian," originally the string that holds it up, etymology unknown. The spelling with G (1891) is perhaps from influence of violin string tuned to a G (in this sense G string is first recorded 1831). First used of women's attire 1936, with reference to strip-teasers. [1]
- It also implies that "geestring" may have been the original spelling. See also What does the G in G-string stand for? from the Straight Dope -Willmcw 20:28, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- Here's another reference, which implies that the violin connection came later.
Butt Floss
It is sometimes disparagingly called butt floss, referring to its tendency to slide between the buttocks like dental floss between the teeth. Really classy. (above comment by some somone who didnt sign (and was an ip address anyway)
This line has always kinda set uneasy with me. I dont know if it is nessicery or adding to the article at all. I have never heard it called "butt floss" by anyone who didn't ahve the "high school jock" persona to them. I have never removed it myself because it was well worded and put as tackfully as a referance to this terminolgy could be put. but the question stands, does this add to the article or distract from it? Cavebear42 16:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that the wording is optimal, but this is a very commonly used nickname. The maturity of those who use the term is probably comparable to those who wear them, so that's a moot point. Maybe the best way to handle this is to have a sentence listing some common nicknames. Cheers, -Willmcw 21:12, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Photo
The current photo looks it was taken without the knowledge of the young woman in it. Perhaps we should find one that doesn't look like so... voyeuristic? --93JC 01:31, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
- I thought the same thing. Maybe something a bit more decent would be appropriate. Do we have any volunteers? Soo 11:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Please see commons:G-string for more images, all are GFDL and with agreement of the model. --Raymond de 14:15, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- The ones in the commons seem almost exbitionist. I don't know what the heck to do... but the current pic has to be replaced. --93JC 02:32, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
- the young woman in the picture chose to wear that outfit at the beach. It seems unlikely that she would be unaware of the attention it might generate, including photographs
- The current image is one of the common models for the man taking the pictures of the women, and it says the model has passed on her photo rights to the photographers. PirateMonkey 06:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
As a secondary point, the one of the man is out of focus and also looks like he doesn't know the picture was taken. We need replacement photos for both of them. PirateMonkey 06:02, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
- There is a secondary photo in the article now. If there is still dispute in regard to the first, feel free to make the necessary removal and placements accordingly.
- I found this page through string bikini. Why's this woman wearing a collar?? Thongs are part of popular culture and a common undergarment for women - the collar suggests some sort of link with BDSM.
necessary wording?
From near the end of the article: "so-called straight male populations"
Why "so-called"? Is there not a demographic that can be described as heterosexual and male?
Sdr 17:38, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
- Bloody hetrophobes. :( Jachin 06:50, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Nomenclature
What about all the different types of G-string/thongs?
- I corrected one nomenclature error in relation to 'the difference between' a G-String and a thong earlier. The prior author claimed a thong had a V back and a G-string had a T. What they were refering to is a V-string, a derivative of the G-string. Jachin 06:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
An issue that should be raised is, 'thong' is an American term and exclusively that, the only instances you will see that word used refering to underwear outside of America is in heavily American influenced countries (ie: television media influence of teens, et cetera).
Thong is too broad a term to use for this article, which is, for all intents and purposes, an encyclopedic article, not urbandictionary.com. So I believe sticking with the actual name of the items of clothing and not having random changes of nomenclature should be effected.
As the article is named after the item, G-string, I have removed all references that could be confusing to a reader of the term 'thong', except where valid and neccesary. Hope this helps bring the article standard up a wee bit. :)
Jachin 06:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- ACK. For my understanding, a V-String is a derivative of a G-String, with the fork much belower, so it looks like a V, but consists of strings only at back-side. A thong (or in european terms a tanga), should have a triangle behind. -- Test-tools 10:15, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- V-String is terminology used by Victoria's Secret to refer to G-Strings. If you look at their web site, you'll see they don't carry ANY G-Strings, just "V-Strings", and not all of which have a triangular rear. The term seems to be a brand (although it's unclear to me if they've trademarked it), and probably should be removed from this article. Appears to me that most vendors call the type with a triangular rear (and usually a narrow strip of cloth rather than a string) a thong. FelineAvenger 16:54, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Extraordinary claims
Excised from the article (for now):
- Also G-strings are very popular with male wrestlers like Hulk Hogan because they don't produce visible brief lines under their wrestling outfits. Also some male actors like Morgan Freeman have admitted to use thongs.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'm prepared to believe this could be true, but a source is necessary for things like this I think. Soo 22:54, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Unfair photos
I'm seeing more sexualization of Wikipedia here. Compare the male photo to the female photo. The male photo is small and blurry. The female photo is large and clear. Coincidence? I think not... -65.161.247.10 22:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Then go out and take some better pictures. Cheers, -Will Beback 00:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
i think that those pictures should not have been taken in the first place. I don't think that anyone would like his wife/husband or daughter/son posing in near nudity and exhibitionism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.158.117.157 (talk • contribs)
- Clearly you aren't aware of the couples who take pictures/videos of each other, or of themselves having sex, and post them on the Internet. They don't seem to mind... Hbackman 23:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
well as the editor of porn magazine OZ once said--"we are now at a stage where humans are copulating here there and everywhere and it is the dogs that are throwing bucketfuls of water to simmer them down!" that is what happens when any sense of morals falls down--pathetic indeed!