Talk:Ipse dixit

Merger proposal

Should the article Ipse-dixitism be merged into this? It is little more than a note on a play on the words "ipse dixit" by Bentham - whose wordplay was (to try to be complimentary) strenuous. Though perhaps the temptation to proceed further out, into "Non-ipse-dixitism", should now be resisted. That's what I think, anyhow. But I'm not an authority on logic. --Wikiain (talk) 04:38, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Also this is a perfect duplicate of Argument by authority. They should be merged. Ceplm (talk) 11:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

• I agree that Ipse-dixitism should probably be merged into this, but it is not the same as an argument from authority (aka appeal to authority). The distinction is the source of the statement, and in fact, they're nearly opposites. An ipse dixit is when the speaker is the source of a statement or assertion with no further attribution (he himself has said it -- ipse dixit), while an appeal to authority is when the speaker makes an assertion based on a statement by a (perceived) authority. cmadler (talk) 13:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

• I also agree that ipse dixit is the opposite of an argument from authority. Acabre (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

• Support merge from Ipse-dixitism - both articles are near-stubs and there is considerable overlap. (Oppose merge with Argument by authority per cmadler). SteveBaker (talk) 15:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

(I added mergefrom/mergeto tags to the two articles involved and to the last few significant editors of them.) SteveBaker (talk) 16:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

While it's been quite a while, the results above clearly support a merge (and I agree); I'm going to complete it now. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I've completed the merge. I did not merge any of the unsourced stuff from Ipse-dixitism, except for the one statement about Bentham coining the phrase, as I imagine that's probably correct. No need to bring over unverified stuff and make this article worse. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The Heinlein example is nonsensical/irrelevant w/o more context

"The Martian roundhead Willis announces that he wants to stay with his human friend Jim."

OK...

"Doctor MacRae says, "Ipse dixit - keep him with you."

Says... to whom, Jim?

"Frank asks, "What does ipse dixit mean?" MacRae replies, "It means, 'He sure said a mouthful'."

Who in the hell is Frank, and where did he come from...?

It's probably me, I can't find my login info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.250.147 (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

• Agreed, this makes no sense and is completely irrelevant other than the fact that it happens to include the words "ipse dixit." I vote it should be removed. Acabre (talk) 18:09, 2 April 2012 (UTC)