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I am not even from that cities, so you the one who should stop vandalism, I am an editor over here, and trying to protect articles from people like you. So I do advice you to stop doing that and trying to be useful --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 00:36, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== attention!! == |
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We in Wikipedia trying to make articles as much as good, please follow the rules. |
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It's important to know that '''what you wish is different from what the truth is'''. So you should stop your abuse immediately or you'll be blocked. |
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:: Don't act as you speak on behalf of wikipedia ... what you did is vandalism, you just replaced "Souf" with "Sakib" in every relevant article. The truth is that Wikipedia keep track of all changes and all your claim can be verified. [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 02:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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If you need any help don't hesitate to contact me--<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 00:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::Again, after checking the "edit history" i've discovered that the city Sakib is the 1st city mentioned in the articles, and i've noticed that there are a lot of users who have tried to replace it with Souf. So just be calm please, there's nothing personal, it's just we need the truth not what you wish deep inside :)--<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 00:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::Your discovery is wrong as I my self added some of the information you are trying to vandalize... You should be aware that Wikipedia keep track of all changes in every article, which make your claims make no sense as they can be simply faced with truth [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 02:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::::That is true, I was always trying to revert your edits besides other edits who are trying also to replace Sakib with Souf, so now just come with a good and useful info with a trusted reference to accept your claims, otherwise your vandalism edits will be rejected.--<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 01:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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==Your recent edits== |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|link=]] Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to [[Wikipedia:Talk page|talk pages]] and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should [[Wikipedia:Signatures|sign your posts]] by typing four [[tilde]]s ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button [[File:Insert-signature.png|link=Wikipedia:How to sign your posts]] or [[File:Signature icon.png|link=Wikipedia:How to sign your posts]] located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-tilde --> --[[User:SineBot|SineBot]] ([[User talk:SineBot|talk]]) 00:59, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== end of story == |
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This's the final attention, anyway I've checked the edit history; for example, you've deleted Sakib photo and replace it with another photo. If you really search for a good act, you should try to add the photo you want beside the old one, and wait to see if we accept it or not. Replacing info is a vandalism, but adding info with good reference is always accepted. thanks a lot--<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 01:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== It is just the beginning , you will be reported == |
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[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]] I just checked the articles which you vandalized.....Your vandalism has to stop... It seems now you are doing this intentionally... |
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You will be reported to Wikipedia as you cannot continue doing this.[[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 02:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== I just tracked your Vandalism == |
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Historyfeelings... I just tracked your Vandalism..... |
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on article "Jerash" You vandalism started on 04:30, 24 February 2012. In this change you added Sakib and then started simply replacing "Souf" with "Sakeb" just for the intention of vandalism. |
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on article "Jordan" You vandalism started on 00:48, 10 April 2012. In this change you just replaced the photo for the olive farms in "Souf" with a photo for the mountains of Sakib, which is in fact for the purpose of vandalism as the picture was listed in irrelevant section as the mountain has no farming. This was just for the intention of vandalism. |
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As I told you earlier that I Wikipedia keep track of all changes.. |
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Now I will make a case against you |
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[[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 03:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:It seems that you are from Souf, and as I noticed your name is: Ahmed Bani Mustafa. Now things are clear. Follow the rules.--<small><span style="border:1px solid #0078FF;padding:1px;color:#0078FF;">[[User:Historyfeelings|H•f ]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Historyfeelings|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 13:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== The Vandalism of the user Historyfeelings == |
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The user Historyfeelings has also been granted the status of Autopatrolled unlawfully as most of his article are vandalism and they are usually rejected by Wikipedia as they talk about tribes and families (In the Arab world) which is banned by wikipedia regulations. |
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He even created a number of articles which simply repeat it self to get the status of Autopatrolled user. I checked the requirements and it states that it should be 50 new articles with a considerable authenticity and credibility, which is simple not the case with all his articles |
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قبيلة_عياصره (redirect) This Article about Ayasreh Tribe which is banned by the regulations of Wikipedia |
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عشيرة_عياصره (redirect) The Same Tribe but he call it clan in Arabic |
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عشيرة_العياصره (redirect) The Same Tribe but he call it clan in Arabic (he is using different spelling) |
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قبيلة_العياصره (redirect) Same Tribe |
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العياصره (redirect) Same Tribe |
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عياصره (redirect) Same Tribe |
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عشيرة_عياصرة (redirect) Same Tribe |
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قرية_الكتة (redirect) (Nehleh is a neighboring village and he call it city) |
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بلدة_الكتة (redirect) |
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مدينة_نحلة (redirect) (Nehleh is a neighboring village and he call it city) |
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بلدة_نحلة (redirect) (Nehleh is a neighboring village and he call this time town) |
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ساكب_(قرية) (redirect) same village |
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ساكب_(بلدة) (redirect) same village |
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ساكب_(مدينة) (redirect) same village |
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بلدة_ريمون (redirect) (Reemoon is a neighboring village and he call this time town) |
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مدينة_ريمون (redirect) (Reemoon again and he call this time city) |
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قرية_ريمون (redirect) (Reemoon again and he call this time village) |
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قرية_ساكب (redirect) same village |
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قرية_نحلة (redirect) (Nehleh again and he call it this time village) |
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مدينة_ساكب (redirect) same village |
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بلدة_ساكب (redirect) same village |
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قبيلة_العياصرة (redirect) Same Tribe |
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العياصرة (redirect) Same Tribe |
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عشيرة_العياصرة (redirect) Same Tribe |
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[[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki|talk]]) 15:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== Edit warring block == |
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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''48 hours''' for [[WP:EW|edit warring]]. I suggest that, if you have not done so already, you carefully read the policy on edit warring, and when you return to editing, you try to reach agreement by constructive discussion, rather than by trying to force your version through by edit warring. You may also find it helpful to read the policy on [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. In addition, it is not constructive, in the course of a dispute over article content, to accuse a good faith editor you happen to disagree with of "vandalism", "long term abuse", etc. Vandalism is malicious editing with the intention of doing harm, not good faith editing which you disagree with. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you would like to be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx" argument. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}, but you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 11:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block --> |
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==Your email, and legal threat block== |
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Thank you for your recent email. I will try to clarify some of the points that you are unclear about. |
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::: Thank you for your time and effort in handling this issue. I am sorry for sending you the email. I did not think that I can respond to your comments as I never engaged in such a dispute on Wikipedia. I thought I was blocked from editing any thing in Wikipedia. Now I will respond to all your points which you mentioned are describing here as it is my last chance to defend my self and to express my point of view. By the way I am responding to these points for the second time, as I emailed you with my response to each point but I could not find the email in my sent box, so I am in doubt that your received it. [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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You say "I do not understand why you blocked me. The user Historyfeelings is the one who was doing the vandalism." However, the block was not for vandalism, but for edit warring. If you are not sure what that means, I suggest that you read the Wikipedia policy on edit warring. (You have at least twice been given links to it on your talk page. |
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::: I don't agree with this. Because what the user did was replacing the word "Souf" with the word "Sakib" without changing the wording or the sentences. He was simply putting a word from a context into a completely different context, which is simply vandalism. It is similar to replacing "China is the country with the largest population in the world" with "Jersey is the country with the largest population in the world". [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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You invite me to verify your sources. You have repeatedly added <nowiki><ref>Surhone, L.M. and Tennoe, M.T. and Henssonow, Souf, VDM Verlag Dr. Mueller AG & Company Kg,2010</ref></nowiki> (for example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerash&diff=prev&oldid=490973090 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerash&diff=prev&oldid=491097832 here]. This book is described by its publisher as "High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!" and it is not a reliable source. In fact, it seems that the statement you are citing to that book was taken from the article in which you are citing it, thus making it a circular reference. |
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::: The book is described as high quality article from Wikipedia and in fact it is. The book is available on Amazon and it is a published book. However, Yes, I do agree with the fact that it is circular citation. But on the other hand, the user is using these citations to support his argument as it is also shown in the Arabic version of the article. I raced his resources and non is supporting any of his claims, while mine is supported by several other sources which are traceable and I am happy to provide upon request. [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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You also cite Travels in Syria and the Holy Land, by John Lewis Burckhardt. This is a book of about 700 pages, without an index. Short of reading the entire book, I cannot verify your citation. Perhaps you can give a page number. I am also doubtful about using an early nineteenth century travel book as a reference for a historical fact. If it is a well established fact then there will no doubt be modern reliable historical works that will support the relevant statement. |
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::: The book is used in Academia as the resources of information bout the region is limited. However, the book is also supported by several other books which all say the same. I have already emailed you with screenshot of the book on google website, where it is available as a free book. The book is big but it is also searchable. You need just to search for the words with its alternative spelling "Souf" or "Suf", "Sakib" or "Sakeb". To make your life easier I just made this is a link to the pages http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KXBBAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP11&dq=Travels+in+Syria+and+the+Holy+Land,+by+John+Lewis+Burckhardt&hl=en&sa=X&ei=a3epT4OdN4Wm4gTagfGTCQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=souf&f=false The book has a complete section about the journey to Souf and it is describing all the villages in Jerash or Djerash as it is spelled in the book and no mentioning of what so ever of Sakib which is relatively a new village. [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Looking at your editing history I can see no sign of any attempt to resolve the problems collaboratively. Instead, I see a [[WP:BATTLEGROUND|battleground mentality]] from the start. The very first edit from your account made an accusation of vandalism, and you have continued with further accusations and threats. Even if an editor is right about certain facts, it is not helpful if that editor does not act collaboratively with others. The first approach in a case of disagreement should normally be cooperation and discussion. |
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::: Go to my talk page and his talk page an you can trace the attempts which I made to try to communicate with him and explain the matter in details. He was simply deleting the discussion talk and continuing the edit ware in an endless way [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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You made a report at [[Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism]] and received a response from an administrator, who said that the matter was a content dispute rather than vandalism, and you were advised that you should pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]]. Your response was to remove the administrator's reply, apparently in the hope of getting another administrator who would take a different line. You duly received a response from another administrator, who indicated that he did not regard the editing as vandalism, and suggested taking the case to [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]. Rather than accept that two different administrators had independently decided that the matter was a content dispute rather than a case of vandalism, you then wrote a message on an third administrator's talk page (mine) asking for intervention. Repeatedly seeking the attention of a string of different administrators in the hope of eventually getting one who will support the line you want |
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::: I was trying to get somebody to review the case. I have never engaged in a dispute before, so I did not have any experience in handling the dispute. The deletion of the messages was unintentional as I thought it is a message, which is deletable as any other messages as the system allowed that. However, Wikpedia keep tacks of the messages in the history log. You cannot punish me for making a complain about a dispute [[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC). |
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known as [[WP:ADMINSHOP|adminshopping]], is unconstructive. |
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[[Image:Stop x nuvola.svg|40px|left|alt=|link=]] In your email to me, you indicate that you are contemplating taking this issue to court. If a person is in legal dispute with the Wikimedia foundation or anyone acting for the foundation, for that person to edit Wikipedia while the case is sub judice, or while legal action is pending, could create legal difficulties. A person acting for the foundation by editing Wikipedia, while at the same time acting against Wikipedia by taking legal action, might have a conflict of interest. To avoid such problems, Wikipedia has a [[WP:NLT|policy]] that anyone involved in, or contemplating, any such legal action, must not edit Wikipedia until the legal matter has been resolved, to ensure that all legal processes happen via proper legal channels. To ensure that this policy is adhered to, the policy states that "Users who make legal threats will typically be blocked from editing while legal threats are outstanding". I hope you will understand that such blocks are not punishments: they are, as I have attempted to explain, a mechanism for ensuring that the legal issues are dealt with properly through appropriate channels, and to avoid potential difficulties. You have, therefore, been blocked indefinitely. This block can be lifted as soon as the legal dispute is settled, or you indicate unequivocally that you are no longer contemplating taking legal action. If that takes place before your previous block was due to expire, it is likely that you will remain blocked only for what is left of that previous block. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 10:02, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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::: I apologised to you and I am now renewing my apology about any misunderstanding which the mail might caused. I did not consider any legal action against Wikipedia, I am not considering this now, and I will never do. I was very angry and disappointed... I was highlighting the importance of the matter as one of the Jordanian newspapers "Addustour" just copied the Wikipedia article (without mentioning that it is from Wikipedia) using my words which after Souf was replaced by Sakib, which made me very angry.....just put your self in my place would you be angry or not.... Now Historyfeelings is using the newspaper article a "circular reference" to support the legitimacy of the change he is continuing to make on the article by replacing Souf with Sakib. Now the news paper is in the public domain, this is not simply juts a Wikipedia article vandalism but it is an attempt to vandalise the complete history of a place, which I find completely unfair. He is also using another reference to support his claim about Sakib ^ Nies, J. B :Notes on across Jordan Trip, made October 23rd to November 7th, 1899, Palestine exploration fund, Quarterly statement, London, 1901. I traced the reference and searched all its relevant pages and nothing is mentioning Sakib. The source is searchable and can be viewed on-line by following the link http://www.archive.org/stream/quarterlystateme33pale/quarterlystateme33pale_djvu.txt By the way the Arabic version of Wikipedia can be easily translated by google translate, and the reference is mention listed in the article in english.[[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed|reason=Your reason here |
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I would like to appeal against this block... |
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I have not engaged in any legal action against Wikipedia and I will never do. I already apologised about the misunderstanding about my email to you which is supported by the context of the email as I was only highlighting the importance of the issue. |
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I have already sent you an email regarding the points which you have highlighted about the article in your above conversation. You are closing all my chances of defending my self and expressing my point of view regarding the disputed article ... which I discussed in my email to you. |
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This is completely unfair to me as the other party "Historyfeelings" is now free to edit the article Jerash after his temporary block is expired and he/she will continue replacing Souf with Sakib. |
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For the sake of fairness I would like you to investigate his claims about Sakib and check the resources he is mentioning if there is any.... However I suspect you will do, which makes my disappointment deeper and my feeling of unfairness more. |
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I am expressing clearly and explicit that I have not taken any legal action against Wikipedia and I am not intending to do so. Therefore, I see no ground for blocking me... as the rule you highlighted regarding the policy of Wikipedia conflict of interest is inapplicable to this case. |
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I am requesting your serious review of my appeal in light of the information which I provided in my response .... |
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As the block as it stand now ... is unfair |
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Thank you for considering my appeal |
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[[User:Wakwakwiki|Wakwakwiki]] ([[User talk:Wakwakwiki#top|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)|decline=The declined unblock on what appears to be your original account explains why not. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 00:13, 9 May 2012 (UTC)}} |
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==[[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|Sockpuppetry]] case== |
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Your name has been mentioned in connection with a [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|sockpuppetry]] case. Please refer to [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Banimustafa]] for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|the guide to responding to cases]] before editing the evidence page. -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 10:12, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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*Thank you for your latest email to me. Both from the email and from what you have posted on Wikipedia from your other account, it is clear that the legal threat has been withdrawn. However, contrary to what you say, it is clear that you have abused separate accounts. Firstly, you used one account to edit an article, and concurrently another account to edit the article's talk page on the same subject, in a way that any reasonable person would have seen as a separate editor supporting the same view. secondly, you used one account to edit when the other account was blocked, thus evading the block. Therefore, this account will remain indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry, but an offer has been made to unblock the other account. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 20:23, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:: You have unblock requests on both accounts. Pick one. As a condition of unblock, from this point forward you are limited to one account, and one account alone. Please declare which of the two accounts you wish to use from this point forward, and remove the unblock request from the other. The creation of any more accounts, even if you believe they will meet [[WP:ALTERNATE]] is not permitted. ([[User talk:Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">talk→</font>]]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' [[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]] '''</span>[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|<font style="font-variant:small-caps">←track</font>]]) 20:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC) |
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*The user has chosen the Banimustafa account, which I have now unblocked subject to the conditions outlined at [[User talk:Banimustafa]]. -- [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 00:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC) |
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