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Juan Manuel Abras

Non-notable composer/conductor. This page has been nominated for deletion once before and the result was DELETE (after someone attempted to use sockpuppets to vote in favor of Keep). That was in 2005 -- why is this article still here? Grover cleveland 16:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page for this article is also full of sockpuppets. Grover cleveland 16:53, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete as recreation of deleted content. Protect from recreation. The JPS 17:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless the writer or other Wikipedians can provide proof of importance. Almost Famous 17:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. Grafikm_fr 18:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Probable vanity page and lots of sock-puppetry but he seems adequately notable in an under-represented field - see e.g. [1] or [2] Dlyons493 Talk 23:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Those pages tell us he's a postgrad student. He's taken lots of universty courses (surprise). He's studied with some notable professors, but that doesn't make him notable. He's directed some ensembles that are anonymous (in the English link) or that no-one has heard of (second link). He is a member of a composers' assocation (no evidence that any notability is required to become a member). He's founded lots of groups (big deal). As a composer, has his music been performed by musicians who are themselves notable? Has it been published by a major music publishing company? As a conductor, has he conducted a notable orchestra or ensemble? Are any recordings of his conducting or compositions available commercially? Grover cleveland 05:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and protect from recreation.--blue520 07:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and protect from deletion. Comments like those from Grover cleveland should be avoided for being non professional, non authoritative and offensive. Music Master

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 :Those pages tell us he's a postgrad student.  He's taken lots of universty courses (surprise).  He's studied with some notable professors, but that doesn't make him notable.  He's directed some ensembles that are anonymous (in the English link) or that  no-one has heard of (second link).  He is a member of a composers' assocation (no evidence that any notability is required to become a member).  He's founded lots of groups (big deal).  As a composer, has his music been performed by musicians who are themselves notable?  Has it been published by a major music publishing company?  As a conductor, has he conducted a notable orchestra or ensemble?  Are any recordings of his conducting or compositions available commercially? [[User:Grover cleveland|Grover cleveland]] 05:50, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' and protect from recreation.--[[User:Blue520|<span style="color:#000080"><b>blue</b></span>]][[User talk:Blue520|<span style="background:#000080;color:#D3D3D3"><b>520</b></span>]] 07:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
-* '''Keep''' and protect from deletion. Comments like those from [[User:Grover cleveland|Grover cleveland]] should be avoided for being non professional, non authoritative and offensive.
+* '''Keep''' and protect from deletion. Comments like those from [[User:Grover cleveland|Grover cleveland]] should be avoided for being non professional, non authoritative and offensive. [[User:Music Master|Music Master]]
-[[User:Music Master|Music Master]]