Talk:CSI: Crime Scene Investigation season 12

Spoilers?

The season finale description is a bit spoiler-y. It gives away the whole cliffhanger of the season. Should this be included in what normally is reserved for a basic description of the premise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muffin8or (talk • contribs) 18:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

"Homecoming (Part 1)"

Homecoming is Part 1, a cliffhanger leading in to CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION's 13th season, and it should have "(Part 1)" in the title. 207.166.0.1 (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Why? Do you have a reliable source that it's a two-part episode? A cliffhanger does not always equate with the first of two parts. You need to know that the writers' intent was that Homecoming was a two-part episode, not determine that on your own (per WP:OR). See years and years of ER finales that ended in a cliffhanger, none of which are listed as Part 1. M, as it's a descriptor. See how TV Guide and other TV media do it; Part 1 is the beginning of the episode description, not the title. --Drmargi (talk) 00:05, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, let's talk about this. You asked me if I have a reliable source that it's a two-parter. My answer, based your required evidence, is no. My answer, based on what I know, is yes. No one knows the CSI: franchise better than I do, except maybe the writers, producers, and actors themselves. I know CSI, and I KNOW that this is a two parter, because they would not end the episode in a cliffhanger without continuing (and usually resolving) the situation in the next episode. Have you seen the episode? I don't think you have. Watch it, and you'll see what I mean. Nick Stokes considers leaving CSI, Conrad Ecklie is shot on the street in a driveby, and DB Russel's grandkid is kidnapped. Now if that's not "PART 1" then I must not know what is. As for your comment, "Moreover, unless the show explicitly uses Part 1 in the title, it should not be listed as part of the title," I have a counter to that. I would like to refer to you to Season 8 where we have a nice two-parter, the season finale being part one. Notice, the words "part 1" are not in the episode title, but still in the title box, not in the description. This is the same for Season 9, with the concluding "part 2" in the title box. 71.137.192.16 (talk) 01:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

"I know it..." See WP:OR, because that's all you have. An episode with a cliffhanger is not necessarily the first part of a two-parter. Cliffhangers are commonplace in TV, but unless the show explicitly states this is Part 1 of two, you cannot label it that way, no matter how well you flatter yourself you know CSI. --Drmargi (talk) 06:37, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, then explain this! Season 13 has "part 2" on the first episode. That means, "Homecoming" is part 1. 70.133.64.36 (talk) 23:59, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Not my problem. Do you have a reliable source that the correct title of the episode is Homecoming (Part 1)? If not, you can't label it that way. --Drmargi (talk) 00:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

But it says right on season 13 "PART 2". That means someone has a reliable source saying it's "Part 2" which means that source also verifies that "Homecoming" is in fact a "Part 1"! 71.137.192.139 (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2012 (UTC)