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Sock/Meat puppet evidence against [[User:Bowsy]] and [[User:Henchman 2000]] |
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==Notes== |
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*First whats not in dispute. They actively admit to shareing a computer, when asked why Bowsy's account was created 4 minutes after Henchman's, Bowsy responded with "We share a computer so we have to take turns." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASuspected_sock_puppets%2FHenchman_2000&diff=99824331&oldid=99823961] |
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*Henchman 2000 nominated [[WP:FANCRUFT]] for deletion [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Fancruft|here]]. '''Four''' minutes later Bowsy shows up to also reccomend the deletion [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AMiscellany_for_deletion%2FWikipedia%3AFancruft&diff=99378458&oldid=99377669] which then rolls onto a [[WP:SNOW|snowy]] keep. |
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*[[User:Jenvidanes]] user page was nominated for deletion, due to it being just userspace version of a non notable band that was deleted so often the mainspace page was salted. Henchman voted first, followed 15 minutes later by Bowsy [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AMiscellany_for_deletion%2FUser%3AJenvidanes&diff=105578311&oldid=105575599]. They were the first to !votes and the only ones to argue for keeping it, which seems to be somewhat of a pattern. It is important to note by the way, that this is one of the first times that the pair have used a borderline attack argument that everyone who wants to see any article they approve of deleted simply doesn't like it and that theres a conspiracy against them. Similar comments include: |
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! style="background-color: #657832; font-weight:normal;" !style="text-align:left;" | *Abusive/incivil comments from Henchman 2000 |
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**"How did we not have strong arguments, the deletists didn't have strong arguments anyway, they were saying "I don't like this article, I don't want it here, I know, I'll use a lame excuse to try and make it seem like something is wrong with the article" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_March_28&diff=prev&oldid=119703862 second section edited] |
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**"An admin who fails to understand how AfD works and makes an opinionated closure and who fails to realise that the entire nomination was a [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]] argument most certainly does NOT deserve points." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_March_28&diff=prev&oldid=119674243], |
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**"Therefore, that is not reason for deletion, as it is untrue, and it also proves Bowsy's point in saying that your closure of the AfD for List of Mario Party minigames was opinionated, if you wanted a say, you should've participated, but you didn't so it's your own tough luck" (to the closing admin) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Radiant%21&diff=prev&oldid=119090804] |
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**"This HAS went on [[WP:DRV]] and the '''delete'''ists have just flooded the review with endorses because they want it deleted. Something needs to be done about this and [[WP:DRV]] isn't going to do it." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Deskana&diff=prev&oldid=118828418] |
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**"If you look [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party minigames|here]] you will find that an admin seems to think he has an overriding vote in the AfD. Out of all the almost identical votes on each side and ranting and raving, it was clearly a '''No Consensus''' closure. Also, Most of the delete votes and the nomination were [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]] and wasn't a game guide and [[WP:FC]] and [[WP:LC]] are not policy and are just concepts forced upon people to get articles deleted. Can you please do something about it." (to Jimbo) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=118571027]. |
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! style="background-color: #657832; font-weight:normal;" ! !style="text-align:left;" | *Abusive/incivil comments from Bowsy |
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**"Vote is abuse of DRV, for it is not about content. This user has clearly voted in this manner because they also did so on the AfD, and for no other reason." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_March_28&diff=prev&oldid=119768553], |
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**"You may have been abusing the DRV process for List of Mario Party minigames. Please read this extract of [[WP:DRV#Purpose]] <blockquote>This page is about process, not about content, although in some cases it may involve reviewing content.</blockquote> As you can see, saying that the content was unacceptable doesn't fly during DRVs." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Kinslayer&diff=prev&oldid=119767780] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JzG&diff=prev&oldid=119767537] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Klptyzm&diff=prev&oldid=119767390] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=119703535] |
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**Denigriating comments about others comments during AfDs [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chriscf&diff=prev&oldid=119702420] |
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**Accusing the closer of ignoring the debate and instead basing it on a simple dislike [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Radiant%21&diff=prev&oldid=118730893]. |
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==XfD's (!votes in common bolded)== |
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===Henchman 2000 has participated in the following XfD's=== |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 3 minigames/old]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 3 minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 2 minigames (2nd nomination)]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party Advance minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 2 minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 8 minigames/old]]''' |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mrs. Puff]] |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jenvidanes]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fancruft]]''' |
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===Bowsy has participapated in the following XfD's=== |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 3 minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party Advance minigames]]''' |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gold Dust Gasoline]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulbasaur Mansion Characters]] |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party Advance minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 2 minigames (2nd nomination)]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 3 minigames/old]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 2 minigames]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario Party 8 minigames/old]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Listcruft]]''' (note, im including this one because it was in response to fancruft being kept and the debate was pulled quickly) |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patchy the Pirate]] |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jenvidanes]]''' |
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*'''[[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fancruft]]''' |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Squilliam Fancyson]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghost Host]] |
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==Update!== |
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On this page's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AKMask/puppets&oldid=124068282 talk page (relevent edit shown)] Bowsy makes the following comment (emphasis added): |
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As has been said, '''myself and Bowsy''' share a computer thus explaining our votes' timings. Also, all this page does is highlight our XfDs. a previous page that tried to get us in trouble using our XfDs has been deleted as harrassment and so I recommend this meets the same fate. [[User:Bowsy|Bowsy]] <sup> ([[Wikipedia:Editor review/Bowsy|review me!]]) </sup> 12:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Bowsy seems to have forgotten which of his accounts he was logged in as. With this edit, Im much more inclined to look at them as sock puppets. |
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