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Is Saif Al-Dawla captured by SAA?

Accroding to this story (in Arabic) with footage from inside the district, Syrian Army gained control of the neighborhood by end of July. http://www.almayadeen.net/ar/news/syria-_xEsieTg7UeoV6ILAQS_Bw/%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%B3%D9%8A%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9 Ahmadac (talk) 15:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

No, it isn´t. EllsworthSK (talk) 14:24, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Any proof of it or we have to agree with your sacred word?--HCPUNXKID (talk) 16:12, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

How about the main article, where the last entry is about a rebel attack in Salaheddine? I really don't see how they could go about executing that if they did not control Saif Al-Dawla.--197.111.223.233 (talk) 18:54, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I don´t need one, genius. Unreliable source will remain one no matter what you wish for. Just as when your guys tried to pain Laraymoun red because Fars said so. EllsworthSK (talk) 19:58, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Al-Aziza

Quite alot of twitter talk saying Al-Aziza has been taken by the FSA, not sure how true it is.90.210.239.82 (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Not quite, there's still fighting going on. FSA has begun storming the village, but it's not over yet. [1]. Let's wait a little more before changing it. Moester101 (talk) 06:12, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

30 September,Rebel fighters launched several domestic rockets on regime strongholds in the A'ziza village.https://www.facebook.com/syriaohr/posts/42764941401006992.113.218.45 (talk) 19:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

al-Sakan al-Shababi neighbourhood

Clashes broke out last night in the al-Sakan al-Shababi neighbourhood of Aleppo city between YPG fighters and rebel fighters, intermittent clashes are still ongoing between both sides. http://syriahr.com/en/index.php?option=com_news&nid=899&Itemid=2&task=displaynews#.Uk0c_6Dd03Q37.52.28.177 (talk) 08:43, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Map edit is incorrect?

Just noticed a map edit has been made based on Updated the map based on the information provided on Battle of Aleppo (2012-13) and Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war As far as i know al-Aziza is under attack from the FSA and other parties. I am unsure as to what the situation is at the airport though. Could really do with real information from trust worthy [and uptodate] sources before edits are made? 5.67.44.60 (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Seems to have Reverted 5.67.44.60 (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Some guy's trying to ruin the map. Since it needs an update, I got this [2] pic from opposition source from 2 days ago which is very accurate based on street level. Major changes based on it, looks like we had a lot of areas wrong... Moester101 (talk) 07:58, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes you can tell just how accurate that map is that it marks such obvious locations as Hanano barracks as being partially rebel held, all the Kurdish areas as "rebel controlled", no govt presence at Marat Artiq, etc. Next time they'll just color all of Aleppo green and you'll say we need to adjust the map to this new reality. Actually they already did, do you want me to get you the "greenest" map of Aleppo for you from rebel sources? "Major changes" indeed XD 98.224.32.154 (talk) 15:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, because the Syrian rebels are totally reliable source...Kermanshahi (talk) 12:13, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, a lot of the changes are in government's favor, such as making the large area above the airport red. Also, I didn't copy the opposition map 100%, I just used it template for unclear areas where we don't hear much news about. Next time really look at the changes before making your comments. Moester101 (talk) 09:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

The page Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war was recently updated to show al-Aziza as gone from disputed to government held. Someone just updated this map to show that development, a necessary update. But I guess if you're not in business of Takfiri propaganda you're just trying to "ruin the map." Kermanshahi (talk)

The government propaganda edit on the Cities map will be dealt with, as apart from Aziza, the same edit also marked Maarat-Al-Numan and Hajar-Al-Aswad as contested. The latest information is that there are clashes in Aziza. And there is in fact no government presence in Maarat Artiq, the last news from that area was that rebels took Hohni. --197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Update: user who made the Cities map edit has apparently been banned. That pretty much clears it.--197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:47, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

There was a government presense in Marat Artiq 4 days ago and I've heard no news of its capture by rebels. What happened?

From LCC:

"In Aleppo, FSA targeted regime forces gathering centers in Maaret Artiq, and regime forces gathering centers in Sfeira as well. FSA also targeted Nubbul and Zahra villages with many artillery shells and scored direct assaults. In Aleppo as well, FSA targeted Soap Factory that is considered as a regime forces center in Old Aleppo neighborhood."

Here's also a video of FSA firing mortars at Marat Artiq, also 4 days ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMXssYuUI-w 98.224.32.154 (talk) 08:17, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

...firing mortars at... hmmm well SAA fired mortars at Raqqah. Following your argument perhaps we should change Raqaah to 'contested' Just check the violations documentation center(pro rebells page) and see the 'martyrs' during last days...there is dead from SAA'mortar shelling... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.216.221 (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC) 0

oh god, what? No, that's not my logic at all, please learn to read English. 98.224.32.154 (talk) 18:00, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Last thing known, the army tried to capture Marat Artiq in May and failed. In a counter offensive, the rebels seized Hohni, which was the furthest point of the army's advance towards Marat Artiq. Is this not what happened?--197.171.98.212 (talk) 21:14, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, you tell me. :) I just know a lot of rebel sources claim that there is fighting and rebel shelling of Marat Artiq, I had provided some of those but there are many more. I don't know where Hohni is or what is the situation there. 98.224.32.154 (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

The map here is very old and needs update neighborhoods that are south of the Airport are government held and with recent advances by the army they lifted the siege and the route to these neighborhoods is open. Madafeit-Al-Neirab,Neirab and Aziza are government held not contested and also some people seem to spread propaganda on this page like user 98.224.32.154 seems to be out of his mind showing us a video of rebels lunching mortars in that case we need to put every town and city in syria contested instead of rebel held cuz you know the regime has an air force and they are shelling all the time.79.126.203.80 (talk) 22:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Allow me to end the Maarat Artiq dispute by pointing out that town is not even on the map!--169.202.5.160 (talk) 07:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Sakhur

Sakhur is marked as not contested? Please provide sources! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.84.86.14 (talk) 11:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Please check the archive, it was agreed when Sakhur was marked contested two months ago (when there were clashes around the water company) that it would revert to rebel held if no clashes occurred there in the next two weeks. It has been two months.--197.106.32.204 (talk) 05:30, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Exactly. No clashes for 2 months means it's not contested. Moester101 (talk) 09:16, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Map of control

Another perspective-

http://i.imgur.com/N1vSU4n.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.117.88.7 (talk) 03:28, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Where is that map from? Who made it? Esn (talk) 17:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

It is from syrian perspective: https://www.facebook.com/SyriaPerspective. their views are obviously biased toward the government, however their maps are actually very accurate and represent the situation on the ground.

This map is outdated by ~1 year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.188.179 (talk) 01:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean the map linked above, or the Wikipedia map? Esn (talk) 17:17, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

The map linked above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.188.179 (talk) 03:17, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Recent map versions and reverts

Please check the current map version, if it's correct I'll probably lock it as there's some edit warring again. Maybe there's a new sock involved there. --Denniss (talk) 06:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Aleppo

The map needs to show the actual city limits.

The vast lands around long roads are controlled by no one and should not be Green/Red/Etc. in accordance with proximity to nearby roads.

In addition, The map needs to show the southern neighborhood around the Cement Factory - it is important because it was the link to the other northern neighborhoods under the government's control.

Starting October 1st. The 12 brigades that rejected the Coalition control areas that must be labled in a color other than Green. It has been mentioned that the map should have maybe 'Black' or otherwise non-green.

Starting October 7th, and after liberating 35 little towns on the way to Aleppo, the Government now opened the road to Aleppon Again. Salameyeh - Khanaser - Aleppo. This Particular map needs to show more southern neighborhoods under the Government's control showing how they connect to the rest of Syria under the government's control.

Also, there are Government troops in the Yellow Area. It should also be RED.