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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bbb23&diff=prev&oldid=579204426 This edit] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Shepherd_Conservation_Society&diff=prev&oldid=579204779 this one] are nothing more than thinly veiled personal attacks. Please, [[WP:NPA|comment on '''content''', not on the '''contributor''']]. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:green;">Aussie</span><span style="color:gold;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 08:38, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bbb23&diff=prev&oldid=579204426 This edit] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Shepherd_Conservation_Society&diff=prev&oldid=579204779 this one] are nothing more than thinly veiled personal attacks. Please, [[WP:NPA|comment on '''content''', not on the '''contributor''']]. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:green;">Aussie</span><span style="color:gold;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 08:38, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I self-reverted the one because it wasn't the place, but this is. The same kind of thing you've been saying about me, you've accused me of having a negative POV towards Sea Shepherd, I discover that you are a Sea Shephard supporter and have been been on board their ships. I think it really clears up where the bias lies. I'll be honest, when I first came to the article it was because it looked imbalanced, it looked overly positive in light of the news. My goal was to bring it away from the positive side to align with the news. Now I think the motives of your edits are more clear and it would probably be a good idea not to hide this when editing. Make it clear that you are a supporter and that your edits may be biased by your view.
:Yes, I self-reverted the one because it wasn't the place, but this is. The same kind of thing you've been saying about me, you've accused me of having a negative POV towards Sea Shepherd, I discover that you are a Sea Shephard supporter and have been been on board their ships. I think it really clears up where the bias lies. I'll be honest, when I first came to the article it was because it looked imbalanced, it looked overly positive in light of the news. My goal was to bring it away from the positive side to align with the news. Now I think the motives of your edits are more clear and it would probably be a good idea not to hide this when editing. Make it clear that you are a supporter and that your edits may be biased by your view.

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June 2013

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August 2013

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Categorisation

As Qwyrxian has told you, "Either eco-terrorism or an appropriate sub-cat should stay". This advice is supported by WP:SUBCAT which says, "a page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category". Category:Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is a subcategory of Category:Organizations accused of eco-terrorism which is a subcategory of Category:Eco-terrorism, so there is no need, nor is it appropriate to place Sea Shepherd Conservation Society directly into Category:Eco-terrorism. This has been discussed several times on the article's talk page over the years. --AussieLegend () 07:14, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In discussion Qwyrxian asked for editors to self-revert to reinstate the original category. Using subcategoeies to hide categories doesn't help understanding, it's just a way of keeping categorical info of the main page. It brings LESS viewership to useful information. 76.112.8.146 (talk) 13:12, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Qwyrxian specifically said to you, "Either eco-terrorism or an appropriate sub-cat should stay".[1] The article is in a subcategory which is entirely appropriate and the rationale for the subcat is explained on the SSCS talkpage. Subcats don't hide anything, they're a way of putting articles into specific categories and a category titled "Organizations accused of eco-terrorism" is entirely appropriate, unless you're arguing that SSCS hasn't been accused of that, in which case it shouldn't be in Category:Eco-terrorism. --AussieLegend () 14:09, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding but I don't think I need you to speak for that editor. From what I read and from what he stated to the other editors in the talk page, he agrees SSCS needs a cat on that page, which there now is. You are missing the fact that the subcat was not on the SSCS page. The subcat was under the SSCS category, removing it from the page entirely. Go take a look at my last edits. I didn't remove the subcat from the SSCS main article. I added a category referencing ET where there was none. (And yes I get that there was a subcat of a subcat of a subcat that one might have been able to find, but ET is not an appropriate sub cat of SSCS as SSCS is not the appropriate parent for all things ET.) And stop giving me a warning every time you disagree with my edits. 76.112.8.146 (talk) 14:14, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"You are missing the fact that the subcat was not on the SSCS page. The subcat was under the SSCS category" - Yo don't seem to understand categorisation. Category:Eco-terrorism is the parent cat, Category:Organizations accused of eco-terrorism is a specific subcat of that and Category:Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is a subcat of that. Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is the main article and a member of Category:Sea Shepherd Conservation Society so it does not need to be in the parent cat. By being in a subcat it's already a member of the parent cat. You've posted to Category talk:Sea Shepherd Conservation Society so you should have seen the comment by C.Fred in which he says "the rule of thumb is that no article should be in a sub and parent category".[2] --AussieLegend () 14:29, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Single issue subcats shouldn't even be a question here. They serve no beneficial purpose. And please stop going around calling me disruptive. Assume good faith I'm trying to help the article look more scholarly and less like a promo piece. 76.112.8.146 (talk) 14:34, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Admin help?

If there is an admin out there I need to request help but I'm not sure how. A certain editor provides rude warnings every time he disagrees with my edits. I am following wiki policy as I understand and he seems to be throwing warnings at me to maintain a positive POV spin on a certain article. I've asked him politely to stop & tried providing him with warnings on his page. Where do I turn to help next? 76.112.8.146 (talk) 14:21, 19 October 2013 (UTC) edit: figured out the admin help template, it's now on the SSCS article. 76.112.8.146 (talk) 15:49, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personal bias in edits

This edit and this one are nothing more than thinly veiled personal attacks. Please, comment on content, not on the contributor. --AussieLegend () 08:38, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I self-reverted the one because it wasn't the place, but this is. The same kind of thing you've been saying about me, you've accused me of having a negative POV towards Sea Shepherd, I discover that you are a Sea Shephard supporter and have been been on board their ships. I think it really clears up where the bias lies. I'll be honest, when I first came to the article it was because it looked imbalanced, it looked overly positive in light of the news. My goal was to bring it away from the positive side to align with the news. Now I think the motives of your edits are more clear and it would probably be a good idea not to hide this when editing. Make it clear that you are a supporter and that your edits may be biased by your view.