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= January 10 =

== Business ==

how do you get your business mentioned on your town's wikipedia page? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.232.195.206|174.232.195.206]] ([[User talk:174.232.195.206|talk]]) 01:52, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:If the business is [[WP:UNDUE|a major factor in the town's history]] and [[WP:V|has been covered as such by reliably published third party sources]], it might be mentioned. However, [[WP:COI|you should not be the one deciding and adding content about your company to any article, because you have a conflict of interest]]. You should post [[WP:RS|the sources]] which cover the relationship of the business and the town on the talk page and see if an uninvolved editor feels the content is appropriate. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 02:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== There are ref tags on this page, but the references will not show without a reflist template (see the help page). ==

Thanks can you help i am a novice here and i have made some strange error messedges apear on the Highams Park wikipediea page. Can you help me to remove them? they say There are <nowiki><ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}}</nowiki> template (see the help page). thankyou{{unsigned|John Johnstone Smith}}
:I have fixed the error. I have also removed the content you added as it was not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] and it appeared to [[WP:UNDUE|give too much weight to a small group in relation to the history of the subject of the article, the town]]. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 03:55, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== The Article: "Harold Y. McSween" ==

Good evening. This is my first time being intensive with Wikipedia. Someone mentioned there was an article about my father here, and there was! The problem is that it's the wrong name as the heading. All of the other information is correct within the article. I tried to edit, but I didn't know how to edit the title. It should be labeled as Harry Y. McSween as listed in the information sidebar. Please help.

Thank you,
Lindsay McSween
[[User:Lamcsween|Lamcsween]] ([[User talk:Lamcsween|talk]]) 03:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:The kind of change you suggest is not done by editing a title, but rather moving the page. The page is now at [[Harry McSween]]. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 03:36, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Visual problems ==

I'm getting a visual problem from last night only when I'm logged-in. I checked it by logging-out and it is good then.

The problem is when I'm logged-in, I'm getting shrunk pages size in width, like in half size. Fonts are bold and large enough. But when I logged-out it come to its original size. Now this page is also shrunk to half size but only until I'm logged-in. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 04:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Same same. The article etc. is squashed in the left half of the display with the right side being whitespace. Is there something wrong with the Vector skin? It occurs only when I am logged in and, even more confusingly, the screen displays normally during edit preview! It is baffling and it is starting to drive me batty? -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]] ([[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]) 04:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::Displays correctly in MonoBook and is squashed to the left in Vector? Is this a known problem for others? -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]] ([[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the same is happening to me. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 04:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:This has been going around. Disabling the "Typography refresh" beta feature seems to fix it. [[User:Howicus|Howicus]] [[User talk:Howicus|(Did I mess up?)]] 04:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::That has improved it - article text is now displaying across the who screen but navbox templates are still squashed to the left. Thanks for your help. -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]] ([[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]) 05:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::If you like the other aspects of the "Typography refresh" you can add something to your CSS page to disable the maximum width - see [[:mw:Talk:Typography refresh#Max width / Narrow pages opt out option]] or [[User:John of Reading/common.css|my common.css page]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 07:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::: It solved mine too, thanks guys. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 16:44, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::::: Yeah the templates are going left, what's that?. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 16:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|Mattinbgn}} Now, by unchecking "Near this page" at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures Beta features preferences] has solved the template problem. --[[User:Captain Assassin!|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:Green;font-family:Trajan Pro;">'''''Captain Assassin!'''''</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Red;font-size:85%;">«[[User talk:Captain Assassin!|T]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Captain Assassin!|C]] ♦ [[User:Captain Assassin!/Guestbook|G]]»</span></sup> 04:12, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::::Got it, thanks! -- [[User:Mattinbgn|Mattinbgn]] ([[User talk:Mattinbgn|talk]]) 04:46, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Sticky findings ==

Hello,

I'm, seeking advice in how to proceed with unexpected new information. See my talk page for Actes and Monuments.
It may be getting more urgent to hear,b/c I will be going public with a few essays--that will contradict some info,
and will show that the title 'Book of Martyrs' may have been common, but was not 'popular', and by the 19th c,
when that title did start to be more used, it had become an historicized literary fiction. The book never existed prior to 178th c.

Thanks for anuy suggestions, and i MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE to commons' projects.

Dvora G.[[User:Docdev|Docdev]] ([[User talk:Docdev|talk]]) 06:17, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

:When you say you will be "going public" with some unexpected new information, what do you mean? If this is information that has been uncovered via your own [[WP:original research|original research]], are your essays being published in a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] - a peer-reviewed journal, for instance? If (and only if) they can be referenced to such a reliable source, it should be OK to cite that source in article once published, as long as you don't give [[WP:undue|undue]] weight to your own work and the material it supports. If the changes are in any way controversial, it would be better to suggest them on the article's talk page, declare your conflict of interest as the author of the cited publication that supports them, and request the opinion of other contributors. - [[User:Karenjc|<font color="red">Ka</font>renjc]] [[User_talk:Karenjc|(talk)]] 12:40, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Reference list ==

I made 6 citations in School-Based Family Counseling/ gerrardb but after saving the page could not find them in a reference list at the bottom of the page. Can you advise?
[[User:Gerrardb|Gerrardb]] ([[User talk:Gerrardb|talk]]) 07:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:I've made an edit to [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/School-based family counseling]], and the references are now showing. The correct form of the reference tags is {{tag|ref}} - note the position of the "/" character. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 07:29, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== please i want know how much is the pay for watchman for watching a ship for twelve (12) hours? ==

please tell me what is the pay for ashore agent's watchman for eight (8)hours ? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/41.66.224.3|41.66.224.3]] ([[User talk:41.66.224.3|talk]]) 11:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at [[Wikipedia:About|Wikipedia]], the free online encyclopedia that [[Wikipedia:Introduction|anyone can edit]], and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|reference desk]], divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.{{z25}}<!-- Template:Astray --> [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 11:29, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Removing tags on a German Wiki page ==

There is a problem tag at the top of a page on SICPA on the German Wikipedia. There was two problems. The first version of the content seems to have had a unreferenced mention of Hidden Champions. The second was that the original translation was dreadful! Both issues have now been sorted but I can't seem to see how to remove the tag. It could be that I don't have the editing rights for German pages but all the content on this says that I should be able to do it. What am I doing wrong? The page URL is:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicpa_Holding
Many thanks,

Iain

[[User:Iainplunkett|Iainplunkett]] ([[User talk:Iainplunkett|talk]]) 11:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:This is something that should be discussed at [[:de:Diskussion:Sicpa Holding]]. In my experience, German language Wikipedians are just fine with questions asked in English, and will reply in English. Go ahead, ask in English! Pete AU aka --[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 12:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
yes, [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) is right in his sense. you should contact them they will guide you even more better. [[User:Nechlison|Nechlison]] ([[User talk:Nechlison|talk]]) 14:09, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Commercial site that contains encylopedic information ==

I have a question to ask, and I am wondering where would be the best place to ask it. The basic gist of it is, I have an established author who has written detailed histories of other people's books in the same genre; these histories include what was happening at the publishing company at the time, other works those authors were involved in, where the books fit in with the genre and the publisher's overall history with the works, what purpose the books were intended to serve, and other insights that are not available anywhere else. The info itself is detailed, well researched, and would be very valuable to Wikipedia articles on the books, authors, and related subjects. However, the problem is that these histories are currently hosted on an independent commercial site that exists to sell products, and the histories are on the same page used to sell the respective products. The histories are not written by or for the publisher, but the website that they are used on are likely benefiting from the histories. I will go into more specifics, but first I want to know where on Wikipedia (a noticeboard, project talk page, or wherever) I can go to discuss this further and get some feedback. Thanks. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 16:14, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::1) Pick an article 2) construct content that fits the article using the source 3) take all that to the [[RS/N]], with your proofs of expertise etc. (See [[WP:RS]] for what to look for). [[User:Alanscottwalker|Alanscottwalker]] ([[User talk:Alanscottwalker|talk]]) 16:26, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:{{ec}} While it is generally preferred not to link to vendor sites, when the site has unique and reliable info I don't believe that there is any absolute ban on doing so. If there is doubt on whether this site can be used as a reliable source (due to possible conflict of interest) then [[WP:RSN]] would be the place to ask i would think. Otherwise, I would merely post on the talk page(s) of the article(s) involved, describing the source. If there are several such articles perhaps you should draft a common explanation on a page in your userspace and link to it on each talk page. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 16:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks - I had been considering RS/N but was not sure, so I shall go there. If acceptable, it would be ''more'' than several articles we are talking about, so yes I would need some form of easy answer to ease any concerns. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 18:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Illeagal movie review [[Drishyam]] ==

Today I searched on google about a malayalam language(in India) movie "Drishyam" and google direct me to [[Drishyam]]. The movie is only released only a few days back and running sucsessfully on theatres. All of us know, the main attraction on thriller cinema's is the suspense till the end. But your poor/waste reviewer don't know about that he write full story from starting to end in the title "Plot". As it drive away audience from theatres and rresult is financial damage to producer. So as a movie lover, I request you to please remove it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/117.213.7.122|117.213.7.122]] ([[User talk:117.213.7.122|talk]]) 16:33, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:We do not censor plot spoilers nor are they "illegal".--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 16:44, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:Spoiler]] has some more information about this. [[User:Arthur goes shopping|Arthur goes shopping]] ([[User talk:Arthur goes shopping|talk]]) 16:44, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== [[:Template:Greece-journalist-stub]] ==

Does this template also refer to ethnic Greek journalists from other countries (e.g. a [[Greeks in Turkey|a Greek in Turkey]]), or only to Greek citizens regardless of [[ethnicity]]? [[Special:Contributions/86.127.10.228|86.127.10.228]] ([[User talk:86.127.10.228|talk]]) 16:58, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

I think the article is actually about the Greek communities after the establishment of the Republic of Turkey 21:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[[User:Nechlison|Nechlison]] ([[User talk:Nechlison|talk]])

== Operation Redwings ==

Your discussion that Marcus Luttrell was "left unconscious and rescued by Pashuns" is like saying Jennifer Lopez is a Hispanic Woman. The harrowing experience of Marcus evading the Taliban and finding the Pashtuns who gave him refuge is far from your description and is a disservice to that brave man and what he did. Just sayin. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.65.136.154|68.65.136.154]] ([[User talk:68.65.136.154|talk]]) 18:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The great thing about Wikipedia is that [[WP:SOFIXIT|YOU can FIX IT]] by providing [[WP:RS|reliably published sources]] to support your suggested content. But be advised that Wikipedia is '''an encyclopedia''' and we do not attempt to stir people's emotions. That type of writing is for other venues. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 18:17, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Inappropriate username ==
{{Resolved|1=[[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 22:54, 10 January 2014 (UTC)}}
What should I do when I see an inappropriate username?

I've seen quite a few which shouldn't really exist, for various reasons. The one that triggered this enquiry is [[User:Aquinasishorrible]]. The only edits from this new user are at [[Aquinas College, Melbourne]]. Apparently this student doesn't like his school's principal.

I'm presuming there are policies which discourage this kind of choice of username. What are they? And what should I do when I see an inappropriate username? Where do I report it? [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 18:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:see [[WP:USERNAME]]. You can flag the page with the {subst:uw-username|because ....} template for actions that do not require immediate attention or go straight to <s>[[WP:ANI]]</s> (see below) for those that do. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 18:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::If immediate attention to a username is needed, go to [[WP:UAA]], not ANI. But do not '''both''' warn with {{tl|uw-username}} and report at UAA, please. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks folks. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 22:54, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== How to clear edit history? ==

I have a shared IP address and I've started getting a lot of notifications lately. Can my edit history be erased. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/117.211.87.203|117.211.87.203]] ([[User talk:117.211.87.203|talk]]) 20:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Unfortunately, no it can't. The history is required to preserve attributions for copyright and other purposes. Your best bet is probably to register and use a free account. If you don't want to do that, simply ignore any notifications that are about edits made by other users sharing your IP address. Of course if one of them does something egregious enough to get the IP blocked, you will be out of luck until/unless you register, or get a different IP address. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:25, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Correct Citation for Stock Info ==

Hello,

I was trying to update the page on [[International Flavors & Fragrances]] because their listed market cap is a bit outdated, but when I tried to cite the NYSE there is an error listed in the references section related to missing/empty title. I assume this is an easy fix and I'm just unfamiliar with formatting Wiki references; I would appreciate some assistance to make sure I have properly cited my source. Thank you!

[[User:Mushroom cloud10|Mushroom cloud10]] ([[User talk:Mushroom cloud10|talk]]) 20:08, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=International_Flavors_%26_Fragrances&diff=590122355&oldid=590119443 I have added] a couple of additional parameters to the template to fix the error.--[[User:Ukexpat|ukexpat]] ([[User talk:Ukexpat|talk]]) 20:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

== Templates not updating ==

Lately, there appears to be a glitch affecting any page with a template. Whenever a change is made to a template, a dummy edit has to be made to any page containing that template in order for the most current revision of that template to show on a page on which it it shown. Is there something that has changed in how editing works that I missed, or is this just a technological glitch?<br>[[User:Benhen1997|Ben]]<sup>[[User talk:Benhen1997|Yes?]]</sup> 22:06, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Whenever a template is edited, this change is propagated to the pages where the template is transcluded through the job queue. Until the job queue reaches a particular page, the page will show the old template version until/unless it is forced to re-render via an edit (including a null edit). This has been true for years. What may be different is that the job queue is longer and so the delay involved is larger, as Wikipedia grows and template usage increases. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::OK, I have just never seen a delay of over 4 days (and still counting) occur. Thanks for the explanation. [[User:Benhen1997|Ben]]<sup>[[User talk:Benhen1997|Yes?]]</sup> 23:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::But there just seems to be a night-and-day difference between how the templates used to update. The templates used to update almost instantaneously, but now they take a much longer time to update, up to five days (and still counting). Pages need to be forced to show these changes via a dummy edit. [[User:Benhen1997|Ben]]<sup>[[User talk:Benhen1997|Yes?]]</sup> 00:53, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== Wonky quotation marks ==

Hey, anybody know of a tool/script/bot that can help automate the change of “smart” quotation marks to "normal" ones? I just spent more time than I'd care to manually changing some [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ziauddin_Ahmad&diff=prev&oldid=590141531 here]. ([[MOS:QUOTE]] is the relevant guideline]]) [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 23:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:I think [[WP:AWB]] can be used for that. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, that looks cool. Any idea if there's anything more browser-native in case I happen to be using a tablet? [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 00:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Copy the wikitext to the word processor of your choice and use it's "find-replace" function, then copy the cleaned up wikitext back into the article. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 09:18, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== article still says "needs additional citations for verification" ==

Hello,
I did some edits for [[Bria_Roberts]] but the article says "needs additional citations for verification..." There are already a lot of citations on the page and I also added one. Can someone fix this?

Thanks! <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Beener3|Beener3]] ([[User talk:Beener3|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Beener3|contribs]]) 23:10, 10 January 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{done}} <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#800000">'''Mlpearc'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Mlpearc|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''open channel'''</span>]])</small></span> 23:14, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

::Removing those templates is a manual process. If you feel the issue has been addressed, you can remove them yourself. They're right at the top of the articles. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 23:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


= January 11 =

== Formatting is broken on all pages? ==

Havn't been around in a while, but went to read a article, and the formatting's broken; the text of each article is somehow constrained, leaving a column of approximately two inches of whitespace on the right.

I've flushed my cache and such, still happening. As far as I can tell this is happening on every single page on Wikipedia, except generated pages such as my watchlist.

Has something been changed recently? I'm using Chrome, WindowsXP, everything's updated etc. —&nbsp;[[User talk:The Potato Hose|<span style="font:small-caps 1.2em Hoeflr Text,sans-serif;color:#000;letter-spacing:0.15em;">The Potato Hose</span>]] 01:34, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:You are most likely using [[mw:Typography refresh|Typography refresh]]. You can disable it by clicking on the "Beta features" section of your preferences.&#32;~[[User:HueSatLum|Hue]][[User talk:HueSatLum#top|Sat]][[Special:Contributions/HueSatLum|Lum]] 02:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

:If you like the other aspects of the "Typography refresh" you can add something to your CSS page to disable the maximum width - see [[:mw:Talk:Typography refresh#Max width / Narrow pages opt out option]] or [[User:John of Reading/common.css|my common.css page]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 08:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Featured Article Error ==

Hi. New to this so bear with me. The main article for today (1/10/2013) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hon%C3%B3rio_Hermeto_Carneiro_Le%C3%A3o,_Marquis_of_Paran%C3%A1
has a pretty obvious error in it. The man's death date is listed as September 3, 2006 which would make leave him at the ripe old age of 205 (born 1801). Seeing as he was an early 19th century Portuguese monarch the date is absurd. Didn't know where else to tell someone with the ability to correct the mistake.

Sincerely

-Brian <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.124.221.143|99.124.221.143]] ([[User talk:99.124.221.143|talk]]) 02:07, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Hi Brian. That was vandalism and was quickly reverted. If you still see it, try [[WP:BYPASS|clearing your cache]].&#32;~[[User:HueSatLum|Hue]][[User talk:HueSatLum#top|Sat]][[Special:Contributions/HueSatLum|Lum]] 02:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Autobiography as only source ==
{{resolved|1=''~E:[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 15:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)''}}
I am assuming that using autobiographies as the only sources should not count as verifying notability in a "Wikipedia-sense". The article, [[James Gordon Partridge Bisset]], indicates by its content the "notability" of the topic; however, the only sources are his autobiographies. To complicate things, there are no inline references, and there are no links to online sources of the (3) autobiographies for verification. The previous 'Notability tag' has just been removed with this edit: [''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Gordon_Partridge_Bisset&diff=590135525&oldid=590133926 diff]''] ''(...subject is notable)''
— Frankly, it seems to be notable to me; but, I was thinking about returning the tag and posting a comment in the [[Talk:James_Gordon_Partridge_Bisset|article's talk page]]. However, I have yet to find chapter-and-verse WP policy; the closest I could find is [[WP:ABOUTSELF]], which isn't really applicable. —Comments or suggestions? &nbsp; ~''Thanks,&nbsp;~E:[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 02:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)''
:You're correct in that articles require sources which are independent of the subject and thus an autobiography wouldn't count. I would suggest you definitely should reinstate the tag, as taking another editors word for it that the subejct is notable isn't good enough. [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 10:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

<span style="color:red;;;">{{ping|TheRedPenOfDoom|}}</span> Thank-you for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Gordon_Partridge_Bisset&action=history your edits]. &nbsp; {{tp|primary}} is the template that I was looking for <small>(assuming that I knew what I was doing)</small>. ~''E''

== acounts ==

Redeemed 9,500,10% debentures of ₹100 each by converting the same into equity shares of ₹100 each. The equity shares were issued at a discount of 5%. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/180.178.25.61|180.178.25.61]] ([[User talk:180.178.25.61|talk]]) 06:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:Hello. Based on your question, there's a good chance that you found one of our {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} encyclopedia articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with the subject of that article. In any case, we unfortunately can't help you with practical problems that aren't related to this website. Please note that you are at [[Wikipedia:About|Wikipedia]], the free online encyclopedia that [[Wikipedia:Introduction|anyone can edit]], and <font color="red">'''this website does not provide any services or support for anything outside this website'''.</font> ~''Good luck! <small>[[Special:Contributions/71.20.250.51|71.20.250.51]] ([[User talk:71.20.250.51|talk]]) 06:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</small>''

==DB Primary==

hellow Wikipedia my name is ben I am trying to grt on db primary but it will not let me <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/94.1.176.30|94.1.176.30]] ([[User talk:94.1.176.30|talk]]) 09:16, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Hi Ben. I'm afraid Wikipedia isn't connected with DB Primary, so we can't fix your problem. This help desk can help people to use Wikipedia, but if your login for DB Primary isn't working, you need to talk to someone at your school. Good luck. -[[User:Karenjc|<font color="red">Ka</font>renjc]] [[User_talk:Karenjc|(talk)]] 10:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Template ==

I recently updated the "List of college bowl games" page. On the "Map of Bowl Games" section, the new map appears but not the names of the new bowl games. I click on the map(Bowl games.jpg), go to the "File usage" section and click on the "Template:Bowl games map" and my changes are there. Why are my changes not posted to the new map?

Also, on the "File:Bowl games.jpg" page, within the "File usage" section, I uploaded another file called "File:Bowl games 2014.jpg" which I don't need. Can I or someone delete it?

Your help is much appreciated...

Roberto221 [[User:Roberto221|Roberto221]] ([[User talk:Roberto221|talk]]) 10:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:When templates are updated the pages that use them can take a little while to update. You can make them update manually by [[WP:Purge|purging]] the page, the easiest way to do this is to add "?action=purge" to the end of the page URL. This forces the page to update itself from the latest version of any templates etc on the article. As you can see the template has already updated itself on [[List of college bowl games]] since you posted this question :)

:The File:Bowl games 2014.jpg image is actually hosted on Wikimedia Commons [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bowl_games_2014.jpg here], and thus will need to be requested for deletion there according to their [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_policy deletion policy]. [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 10:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

==Use of Wikipedia to study Persian==

Dear Sir,

I want to study Persian thoroughly. Can you tell me how to use Wiki for the same.

I want resources for the same. I dont want to Edit anything.

Abdul Rasheed S

[[Special:Contributions/86.98.32.73|86.98.32.73]] ([[User talk:86.98.32.73|talk]]) 13:44, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:This is the English language encyclopedia, Wikipedia. As such, it is unlikely to be much help for studying any language other than English. The Reference Desk[[WP:RD]] may be able to point you in a direction for resources for learning languages. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 14:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

:('''e/c''') Hey Abdul. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia ([[WP:NOTWIKI|not wiki]]) only contains articles about topics. It does not have instructional classes. We do have many articles you can read in the area. I think your question is about learning [[Persian language|Farsi]] but it's not completely clear, and could be about the country, its history, its people and so on. If this is about the language, you might start with exploring the various articles listed in {{tl|Persian language}}. You might also head over to our article on [[Iran]] and see the many other articles linked at the bottom where you see "Articles related to Iran" (click "[show]" to expand that collapsed area). On a sister project, Wikibooks, we also have a course on learning Farsi. See [[Wikibooks:Persian]]. All this is predicated on you wanted to read/study these materials in English. Note that though they are generally less developed, we have Wikipedias in [[Template:Wikipedia languages|many other languages]]. Best regards--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 14:43, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Boston Bar, Yale, BC, Canada ==

I have two very old photos of the Fraser Canyon and river plus one of either Yale or a town just above Boston Bar. They were taken sometime in the late 1890's or so as they show a wagon train downtown being pulled by steers, not mules or oxen.
Would these be important to the article about the early history and how do I go about that?
Tom Osvold <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.111.138.95|68.111.138.95]] ([[User talk:68.111.138.95|talk]]) 15:40, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Granting a license ==

I've uploaded an image. I didn't know exactly how to grant the license, but am trying to do so. The Wizard wasn't clear, nor are your Image help pages designed for clarity. Your easiest licenses should be grantable as part of the path of uploading, with clear responses stating ''"You're done! The license is uploaded. We'll let you know if there are any problems."'' No, instead your licensing system has too many choices for the novice, not enough clear summarization, and no critical path funneling. Without this, the image upload process is making Wikipedia unfriendly, and reducing your potential volunteerism.

At upload, I was advised I should provide the license, and promised to do so. Wikipedia left me an automatic response, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Beta_Deuteron_chapter,_University_of_Minnesota,_Phi_Sigma_Kappa,_1933.jpg here], stating:

:'''An email containing details of the permission for this file has been sent in accordance with WP:OTRS.'''

To who? To me? I haven't seen an email. To OTRS? What else do I have to do to ensure that this image isn't going to be deleted by an overzealous copyright enforcer?

I have a dozen other images, which I intend to release in low-res without restriction. But having run afoul of a copyright zealot here before, I don't want to go through the effort only to have it stomped on. [[User:Jax MN|Jax MN]] ([[User talk:Jax MN|talk]]) 16:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:The image is at [[:File:Beta Deuteron chapter, University of Minnesota, Phi Sigma Kappa, 1933.jpg]]. [[Wikipedia:Media copyright questions]] describes how to add a copyright tag to an existing image and provides information on asking additional copyright questions. -- [[User:Jreferee|Jreferee]] ([[User talk:Jreferee|talk]]) 19:12, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== References within footnotes ==

I am currently drafting an article on [[User:Equisetum/sandbox/Pieter Nieuwkoop|Pieter Nieuwkoop]] in my userspace, and I am somewhat stuck on a particular referencing problem. Specifically I need to reference an explanatory footnote, but ''don't'' wish to separate the notes and references into two sections (that seems a bit silly as I am likely only going to have one explanatory note in the entire article). I have tried following the advice at [[WP:REFNEST]] but I think this is running into a problem where Cite.php tries to render the reference named in my "refn" template before rendering the template itself. It then thinks it has an unused list-defined reference and throws a tantrum. Is there any way to achieve what I want, or am I stuck having a "Notes" (or rather "Note"?) section containing a single note? Thanks. [[User:Equisetum|Equisetum]]<small> ([[User talk:Equisetum|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Equisetum|contributions]])</small> 17:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:I've made an edit, which at least gets rid of the error message. But I don't know of any way to place the "nested" footnote ''after'' the "main" footnote. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 17:20, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
::{{ec}}
::Looks like you have the {{tl|refn}} use inverted. What you should have is:
<pre>{{refn|An embryonic cell layer which is destined to give rise to both [[endoderm]]al and [[mesoderm]]al tissues.<ref name=endomesoderm_def />}}</pre>
::But, that will put the inner reference first in the reference list. Nothing you can do about that without separate reference lists. And with list-defined references, you can use only one nested reference. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]</sup></span> 17:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Aha, thanks to you both. I think I shall just find another place to put an explanatory note so that one doesn't look so lonely. [[User:Equisetum|Equisetum]]<small> ([[User talk:Equisetum|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Equisetum|contributions]])</small> 17:34, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

::::It isn't clear why you need a reference within an explanatory note. In most cases you could have two notes, one of which is explanatory and the other of which is a citation, and just put them in succession after the body text that is to be supported. [[User:Jc3s5h|Jc3s5h]] ([[User talk:Jc3s5h|talk]]) 17:39, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::In this particular case the only thing the citation supports is the content of the explanatory note; it doesn't directly support any body text. [[User:Equisetum|Equisetum]]<small> ([[User talk:Equisetum|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Equisetum|contributions]])</small> 20:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

== Scandalous ==
{{hat|[[WP:DENY]]}}
Are guy you aware of inncuracys in the article regearding [[cashew nuts]]?! too many lies. --[[User:NutsAboutNuts|NutsAboutNuts]] ([[User talk:NutsAboutNuts|talk]]) 17:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:What exactly is wrong with it? If you find issues please report them on the article's talk page. [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 17:22, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

:: '' While native to northeast Brazil, the Portuguese took the cashew plant to Goa, India,'' - '''LIES''', They took the plant to Sri Lanka first.
:: '' The shell of the cashew nut is toxic, which is why the shell is removed before it is sold to consumers '' '''BULLSHIT''', only some varieties of the shell are toxic
::'' African countries used to be the major producers before 1980s '' '''NOT TRUE''' , they still are major producers.

These are reasons why the article is rubbish. Fix it or let me fix it. --[[User:NutsAboutNuts|NutsAboutNuts]] ([[User talk:NutsAboutNuts|talk]]) 17:26, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:Ok. You can go ahead and edit almost any article on the site, you know? As long as your information is backed up by a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] there's unlikely to be an issue with you making changes to the page. [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 17:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

:: I don't give a dam. I will edit whatever the hell I want and there is nothing you can do about it. --[[User:NutsAboutNuts|NutsAboutNuts]] ([[User talk:NutsAboutNuts|talk]]) 17:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Dream on sunshine... Anyone can revert your edits if they deem them to be incorrect. So we'll take a look at what you do to the article and judge your edits according to the generally agreed standards. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 18:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
::::The community has a lot of collective experience dealing with disruptive editing. I left a welcome on your talk page— please review the relevant material. And remember that we are all here to make the articles more comprehensive and accurate. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]</sup></span> 18:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

:Here is some sourced information that can be summarized into the article (if not already there):
:* "''Since taken to Goa by the Portuguese, cashews have been much used in the cooking of Southern India.''" April 29, 1995 [[The Age]][http://www.cashewnuts.com.au/cashew-nuts-articles/1995/4/29/going-nuts/]
::*"''Cashew was originally introduced to Sri Lanka from Brazil by the Portuguese in the 16th Century.''"[http://archives.dailynews.lk/2011/05/12/fea20.asp]
:*"''because the cashew's hard shell is toxic. Regulations require that all cashews be shelled.''"[http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1986-12-11/lifestyle/0280090052_1_brazil-nuts-cashew-almonds]
:*"''Vietnamese production was estimated at three lakh tonne (lt) against India's 5.73 lt in 2006. The major producers in Africa are Nigeria (2.16 lt), Tanzania (1lt), Ivory Coast (90,000 tonne), Guinea Bissau (81,000 tonne), Mozambique (58,000 tonne), Benin (40,000 tonne) and Kenya (10,000 tonne''"[http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/todays-paper/tp-agri-biz-and-commodity/raw-cashewnut-supply-seen-declining/article1641678.ece]
:-- [[User:Jreferee|Jreferee]] ([[User talk:Jreferee|talk]]) 18:54, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
::::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dodger67&diff=prev&oldid=590251303 This] appears to be [[User:Technoquat]] again - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 18:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
{{hab}}

== Article, Music of Cuba ==

In the article they have given credit to a lot of musicians, but not credit to, Gerry Zaragemca, which also did and article about Jazz, mentioning several Cuban jazz players, 'Zaragemca brief on Jazz Music'. The article is featured on several websides, including. Allaboutjazz.com.<ref>Allabotjazz.com</ref> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.126.210.31|207.126.210.31]] ([[User talk:207.126.210.31|talk]]) 20:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:we base our content on [[WP:RS|reliably published sources with a reputation for accuracy, fact checking and editorial oversight]]. Content is also selected on how well it seems to represent the mainstream academic views about the subject. If you can find sources in a place like books.google.com or mainstream newspapers or websites for reputable music magazines, then [[WP:SOFIXIT|you can enter the content yourself]] and [[WP:CITE|cite the sources]]. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;;;">TRPoD <small>aka The Red Pen of Doom</small></span>]] 00:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== Writing An Article Question ==

Hello,

I am an NYC Comedian and although I know I can't create a page for myself, I have someone that is interested in doing so. How can they do this?

Thanks,

Mike Joseph <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.12.52.180|50.12.52.180]] ([[User talk:50.12.52.180|talk]]) 20:17, 11 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:They probably still shouldn't due to their [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. They may find it hard to write about their friend/colleague in a neutral and encyclopedic way. Either way, if they do start the article, they should go through the [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]] process where they can be helped along the way. And they would also need to [[WP:ACCOUNT|create an account]]. In order for the article to be kept, they would have to establish that you are [[WP:BIO|notable enough for a biography]] by referencing sources that are independent of you such as magazine articles about you, interviews with you, etc. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

= January 12 =

== [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ben Levin]] ==

Dear editors: While checking through the stale drafts that are soon to be deleted, I came across this article. Checking to see if there were news reports about this person, I found quite a few up to July 2013, enough IMO to establish notability. However, in July there were suddenly a huge number of widespread reports. It seems that, in spite of a long career of positive contributions to society, the subject last summer was arrested in a serious criminal matter, and reports were numerous because of his prominent position. What is Wikipedia policy in a situation like this? Should the submission be made into an article and the fact of the arrest with citations be added near the end? Since the event received so much press, should the criminal matter be part of the lead? Or is there another way that Wikipedia handles items like this? &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 01:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

:[[WP:1E]] would seem to be relevant here. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 02:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
::This person was already notable before the one event. Although the article as it was submitted last year didn't have enough references, I had no trouble finding more, such as [http://thechronicleherald.ca/books/423324-urban-school-reform-levin-s-latest-offering this one.] &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 04:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
:::I'd mention it in its own section if the event itself is significant enough, but I don't think I'd put it in the lead unless it itself was something he was known for in the sense that that may be all (or the first thing) a large percentage of people who know about him know (or if it were a large section of the article, perhaps). - [[User:Purplewowies|Purplewowies]] ([[User talk:Purplewowies|talk]]) 04:53, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== New added tool ==

Hi.

I am suddenly given a tool such that in every article I go, there is this gadget that has icons at the right side of the page, such as "Minimise", "Show metadata for this page", "Send appreciation to the authors", "Mark this page as unreviewed", "Add tags to indicate areas of improvement on this page", "Nominate this page for deletion", "Go to the next page in the queue".

Did I just enable a gadget? How do I disable it? Or that I am a reviewer (which I don't think so)? Is it in my preferences? If you replied, please inform me on my talk page. --Huang <small>([[User talk:HYH.124|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/HYH.124|contribs]])</small> 05:33, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

:Are you currently patrolling new pages? This is a tool that helps with patrolling newly created articles - it's called the '''[[Wikipedia:Page_Curation#Curation_Toolbar|Curation Toolbar]]'''. You can read more about closing/re-opening it there. <b>~<i><font color="#07517C">[[User:SuperHamster|Super]]</font></i><font color="#6FA23B">[[User:SuperHamster|Hamster]]</font></b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/SuperHamster|Contribs]]</small> 06:08, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== Where to suggest ideas ==
== Where to suggest ideas ==


Is there a way to suggest a feature to wikipedia? I've had certain ideas that 'd like to suggest, but cannot find ways to do so. Thank you for any response in advance! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.117.66.158|99.117.66.158]] ([[User talk:99.117.66.158|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Is there a way to suggest a feature to wikipedia? I've had certain ideas that 'd like to suggest, but cannot find ways to do so. Thank you for any response in advance! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.117.66.158|99.117.66.158]] ([[User talk:99.117.66.158|talk]]) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:[[WP:Village pump/Proposals]] - [[User:Purplewowies|Purplewowies]] ([[User talk:Purplewowies|talk]]) 06:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
:[[WP:Village pump/Proposals]] - [[User:Purplewowies|Purplewowies]] ([[User talk:Purplewowies|talk]]) 06:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
If you have new ideas or you have invented something new, then Wikipedia is not place to publish original research. See [[WP:OR]] but if you are new and find the way to write neutral article on something else which is notable and has reliable sources, then see [[Wikipedia:Your first article]] , if you have any further question then post it on my talk page. Thanks [[User:Nechlison|Nechlison]] ([[User talk:Nechlison|talk]]) 10:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== [[Talk:British Rail Class 458]] ==

Dear editors: As far as I know, Google usually doesn't index talk pages, but this one came up in a search that I was carry out. Is there something different about it from other talk pages? &mdash;[[User:Anne Delong|Anne Delong]] ([[User talk:Anne Delong|talk]]) 06:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
:What were you searching for? It doesn't appear (at least not on the first page) when I search for "British Rail Class 458". [[User:Rojomoke|Rojomoke]] ([[User talk:Rojomoke|talk]]) 08:37, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
: It was the 3rd of the 73100 results when I did that Google search. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 10:36, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
:I don't see it on the first 3 pages. Might it be that those of you seeing the talk page had already been on that page? [[User:Samwalton9|Samwalton9]] ([[User talk:Samwalton9|talk]]) 10:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

== rock climbing ==

is rock climbing done on artificial rocks? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/106.208.31.161|106.208.31.161]] ([[User talk:106.208.31.161|talk]]) 08:27, 12 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This would have been better asked at the [[WP:RD|Reference Desk]], as this Help Desk is strictly for questions about using Wikipedia. That said, see [[Indoor climbing]]. [[User:Rojomoke|Rojomoke]] ([[User talk:Rojomoke|talk]]) 08:35, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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Where to suggest ideas

Is there a way to suggest a feature to wikipedia? I've had certain ideas that 'd like to suggest, but cannot find ways to do so. Thank you for any response in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.117.66.158 (talk) 05:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Village pump/Proposals - Purplewowies (talk) 06:58, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you have new ideas or you have invented something new, then Wikipedia is not place to publish original research. See WP:OR but if you are new and find the way to write neutral article on something else which is notable and has reliable sources, then see Wikipedia:Your first article , if you have any further question then post it on my talk page. Thanks Nechlison (talk) 10:59, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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