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Limbaugh keeps a (see[[1]]) running update on his website of court decisions and transcripts, legal positions, and media and editorial coverage of his case.

I removed this because the link is broken and it seems to me the whole feature has been removed from the site. - furrykef (Talk at me) 09:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Fraudulent Colonel Interview controversy

I noticed that a section has been added to the article today claiming a new controversy involving Limbaugh. When I performed a Google search looking for news articles on the controversy the only relevant link I found was from the progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America. Does anyone have any reliable sources that Limbaugh's use of a fictitious character has caused an actual controversy, or is this just another case of a partisan group disapproving of Limbaugh's shtick? --Allen3 ^talk 23:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

If the American Air Force cared enough to actually investigate, don't you think that it merits mention? An official Air Force investigation doesn't deserve mention?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.195.232 (talk • contribs) 03:26, June 6, 2006 (UTC)

Do we have a reliable source that such an investigation took place, or are we still stuck with a partisan accusation as the sole basis for the claim? Also what type of investigation was performed? The Media Matters press release does not claim that any investigation took place, only that "Pentagon officials and the Air Force" reported having no record of the fictitious officer or his unit. Based on the press report it is possible that this alleged investigation is nothing more than some airman basic working in a Pentagon public relations office answering a phone query from Media Matters. Until independent third-party sources are found to verify the section's claims, this section will have the problem of giving undue weight to a partisan claim. --Allen3 ^talk 11:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Limbaugh reported about this on-the-air, surely somebody heard the broadcast and can quote from it? Bjsiders 12:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

A show transcript would be an appropriate source to verify what was said on the show. In addition to a transcript other sources will most likely be needed to provide confirmation of the sections claims regarding alleged Air Force statements or that the incident has caused a real controversy (the section header implies one exists). Please understand that I am not questioning the truthfulness of the sections claims, only the section's ability to comply with Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Undue weight, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Partisan websites without resorting to original research. --Allen3 ^talk 13:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It has been my experience that Media Matters is quite reliable and well-sourced. Instead of assuming that because the issue was breached by this site, it must be suspect, it would be more appropriate to consider this site's presentation with the same assumption of veracity as other news sources. 152.31.193.132 16:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Black Max

An internal Air Force inquiry does not constitute a controversy by itself. Finding no mention of this in the main stream media, or in fact, from any source other than mediamatters.org, I removed the offending text. Gregmg 17:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

1980s

The article states regarding the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, "This emboldened many radio stations to modify their line-ups in order to attract those wishing to hear varied points of view." This is ridiculous, and misrepresents the entire effect of the repeal of the doctrine. In fact, the repeal of the doctrine encouraged conservative radio owners to "pack" their talk lineups with right-wing hosts and either reduce the role, or simply fire, their left-leaning hosts. Limbaugh would have been far less likely to have experienced the success that he has enjoyed if he, and his employers, had been constrained by the "equal time" provisions of the doctrine. 152.31.193.132 16:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Black Max

How would you like to see the section rephrased? Bjsiders 17:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

order of height measurement

Since Rush Limbaugh is an American, shouldn't the imperial measurements be listed first and the metric second in ()s? 168.166.196.40 20:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily...even in America, SI is the "preferred system of measurement", even though casual usage still favors the American (not Imperial) customary system. Note, however, that scholarly usage (which would seem to apply to Wikipedia) favors emphasis on the worldwide standard measurement system. It's a good point for discussion. Thanks.... Albanaco 16:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

IMDB as a primary source

A much bigger concern than the ordering is the use of a site that accepts anonymous contributions as the source of the information. While I appreciate the sentiment that people are trying to help find useful additions for the article, compliance with Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published and online sources is also important. --Allen3 ^talk 22:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

That's an interesting point...if so, then any material drawn from the IMDB would be suspect and should be avoided (at least as a primary source)...the subtext is that IMDB is not so much a factual source, but rather a direct competitor to Wikipedia (at least for information about celebrities)...definitely worth further review and discussion. Thanks.... Albanaco 16:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Mike Stark of CallingAllWingnuts.Com's Call-in Campaign

Rush article or show article could use mention of recent campaign by Mike Stark to call in questions to Rush and then post the audio on www.callingallwingnuts.com

Deletion and change

I deleted the following:

"On November 6, 1992, three days after the election, in reference to who was in and out at the White House, Limbaugh joked on air that he didn't know Bill Clinton had a pet dog, and held up a picture of Chelsea.[citation needed]"

Because here is a (partial) transcript of what really happened:

Here is the (partial) transcript:

Copyright 1992 Multimedia Entertainment, Inc. RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW: RUSH LIMBAUGH (9:00 PM ET) November 6, 1992, Friday 11:15 AM

LIMBAUGH: Thank you. This show's era of dominant influence is just beginning. We are now the sole voice of sanity, the sole voice of reason. We are the sole voice of opposition on all television. This is the only place you can tune to to get the truth of the opposition of the one-party dictatorial government that now will soon run America. Oh, I mean, we are only beginning to enjoy dominance and prosperity. Most of these things on the in-out list are not even funny, but a couple of them--one of them in particular is.

David Hinckley of--of the New York Daily News wrote this, and what he has--he's got--it's very strange. He says, In: A cute kid in the White House. Out: Cute dog in the White House.' Could--could we see the cute kid? Let's take a look at--see who is the cute kid in the White House.

(A picture is shown of Millie the dog)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) No, no, no. That's not the kid.

(Picture shown of Chelsea Clinton)

LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) That's--that's the kid. We're trying to...

_____

(and, as you can see, Rush did NOT hold up any photos. All photos were flashed on a video monitor. The only thing Rush was holding in his hands was the article from which he was reading (which contained no pics)

Also, the following reads:

"On a later broadcast, Limbaugh played a video clip of then-President Bill Clinton laughing on his way into a memorial service for Commerce Secretary Ron Brown with Tony Campolo and then looking mournful (see [3])."

The part of that which reads: "Clinton laughing on his way into a memorial service for Commerce Secretary Ron Brown" was wrong. Clinton was videotaped LEAVING the memorial service after it had ended. Not going to it. So I changed that to:

"Clinton laughing on his way leaving a memorial service for Commerce Secretary Ron Brown"