Talk:Legality of incest

Sweden

This picture about Sweden is wrong but the text is right. Incest between family members ar prohibited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.103.195.26 (talk) 19:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Kennedy v. Louisiana

I removed the section on the June 25, 2008 United States Supreme Court ruling in Kennedy v. Louisiana for factual errors (It's not the 'USA Supreme Court,' there aren't 54 states in the Union, etc.) and because the case was about child rape, not incest. -Ddawn23 (talk) 07:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Not a billboard

Or something like that. I removed a bit of self-promotion but left the mention of the individual in question. I'd add a [citation needed] tag if I remembered how. 66.91.223.207 (talk) 07:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

German incest law

Why was there some kind of case study report instead of the actual legal situation? Doesn't make any sense IMHO, instead of it I'm going to write down a translated abstract from the German Wiki article [1]. 85.181.186.210 (talk) 14:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Needs a lot of work

There are very few references here, and mach of it has no references at all. To take just one, Belgium - "Incest is legal in Belgium." Do we have any references and what is the definition of incest in Belgium?--Lord Don-Jam (talk) 11:06, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

As no one has come back to me on this and we have even more ones like "Incest is legal in Belgium", without telling us what the definition of incest in Belgium or any giving any kind of references to back it up. I think we shod take all the one like it out. If no one gets back to me soon, then I shall go and do.--Lord Don-Jam (talk) 10:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

The same thing could be said about France, since both have similar legal codes. I think I have read correctly that French laws are considerably more tolerant about incest than other countries. [2] However, there appears to have been a more recent law in January 2010 that re-outlawed incest after more than 200 years of decriminalization. [3] ADM (talk) 12:45, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

United Kingdom

The criminal law in the UK is divided into that of Scotland, that of England and Wales, and that of Northern Ireland. Scotland certainly has a different law of incest and so I have amended the section accordingly).. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.22.29 (talk) 11:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I shod have seen that before...Good work. Anyone know were we can find out about the law in Scotland, Northern Ireland or any of the British territories? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Don-Jam (talk • contribs) 19:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm currently doing my undergrad thesis on Scots incest law. I'll add something soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.149.97 (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, the UK section says "parent (including adoptive parent), grandparent, child, grandchild, brother, sister, half-brother, half-sister, uncle, aunt, nephew or niece", but not cousin. Are cousins exempt, and if so, why? If not, should it be added? 86.26.228.53 (talk) 22:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

As I read section 27 of [4] (the cited supporting source), cousins (as well as current or former step-siblings, step-parents, and foster parents) are included if persons A and B live or have lived in the same household, or A is or has been regularly involved in caring for, training, supervising or being in sole charge of B. I'll leave the question of whether or not to include this info up to the editorial judgement of other editors. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

That only applies if the sexual activity is with a family member under 18. There's no law against sex between adult cousins or adult step family. Jim Michael (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Royalty and aristocrats have frequently married their cousins, including The Queen, whose husband is her second cousin once removed. Hence the UK has never outlawed cousin sex or cousin marriage. Jim Michael (talk) 01:32, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Brazil

The way it says makes it look like 'everything is allowed', but that uncle/niece thing. Sure consensual sex is not a crime, but the fact is, for marriage, laws are much more strict. Marriage between 'vertical' relatives (father/mother - son/daughter - grandson/granddaughter) is forbidden on all ocassions. But 'lateral' relatives closer than uncle (siblings) is forbidden, while further than uncle (cousins) is completely unhindered. I just don't know how to word that any nicer. For references (in pt-br): http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/leis/2002/L10406.htm (official govt site with the current Civil Code of law, Art. 1.521 says about marriage obstructions (blood-family, affinity-family (in-laws, adoption), already married people and... the surviving spouse with the person convicted of killing the other spouse (lol)). 189.123.140.7 (talk) 04:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

India

The site:http://doctor.ndtv.com/ used as refrence seems fishy

Rhode Island

does anyone have access to this reference that purports that incest is legal in rhode island? http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/Statutes/TITLE15/15-1/index.HTM appears to disagree. 108.206.152.174 (talk) 01:05, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

The NDAA has an article on incest laws: Rhode Island is marked as allowing it. http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/criminal_incest%20chart%20_2010.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jathara (talk • contribs) 20:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The article says that "In the United States the District of Columbia and every state, except Rhode Island, have some form of codified incest prohibition." The NDAA article is clear that Rhode Island does have such laws. They are looser for Jewish communities than for the remainder of the state, but they still exist and are enforced. Likewise the article says that "Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989". While that may or may not be true, the fact that they do currently have incest laws makes the statement at best highly misleading. 108.206.152.174 (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

United States Laws

The United States Laws section ends with the following: UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh has questioned the rationale behind laws prohibiting incest, at least as they apply to sex between adults.

I really hate cliffhangers like that. It tells us that someone has questioned the rationale behind the laws, but says nothing about what was said or what the outcome was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.193.12 (talk) 23:26, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The United States sentencing section is incredibly inaccurate. Life imprisonment is not a punishment for incest in Georgia (10-30 years, or 25-50 if minor), Alabama (2-20, or 10-20 if minor) or Mississippi (5 years and/or a fine of 500 dollars), and those are just the three I checked.

Why no info on Middle East?

Why no info on these laws in the Middle East? 86.164.246.89 (talk) 23:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:DIY Boogerpatrol (talk) 23:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

What a stupid answer. I want the information because I don't already know it, so of course I can't add it myself. 86.164.246.89 (talk) 03:23, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I did some quick googling. I didn't find enough to make me want to add to the article on this subtopic, but you might want to take a look at [5] [6], [7], [8], [9]. The WP article Cousin marriage in the Middle East is somewhat related. On Wikiislam, there's an article on Cousin Marriage in Islam. Some of those sources may be unreliable; the wiki sources are unreliable by definition, though they may contain cites of reliable sources. Also, there's [10]. If you research further and come up with some useful information supported by reliable sources, please consider adding the info to the article and citing the sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:05, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Australia

Regarding the details of what constitutes incest, the line: "In all jurisdictions except New South Wales incest is sexual intercourse between a “lineal ancestor” and a “lineal descendant”." seems to imply that, except for NSW, other areas do not consider sibling/half-sibling relationships as incest. A quick google search finds this to not be true (using Vic as an example):

"(4) A person must not take part in an act of sexual penetration with a person whom he or she knows to be his or her sister, half-sister, brother or half-brother." [Source: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/s44.html]

Vic: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/s44.html

SA: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_act/clca1935262/s72.html

ACT: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/legis/act/consol_act/ca190082/s62.html

NSW: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s78a.html

QLD: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/s222.html

(no time to find other states/territories)

Thus, I think the legislation of each state needs to be checked and this section needs to be reworded.

-- Highwind⁸₈⁸, the Fuko Master 11:41, 13 September 2013 (UTC)