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::Mosfetfaser, your arguments [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=596301327 here] were particularly [[WP:BIASED]] and not particularly persuasive. Your statment "The twins are notable together only" is also not particualrly persuasive, would you care to back it up with a proof? [[User:CombatWombat42|CombatWombat42]] ([[User talk:CombatWombat42|talk]]) 22:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::Mosfetfaser, your arguments [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=596301327 here] were particularly [[WP:BIASED]] and not particularly persuasive. Your statment "The twins are notable together only" is also not particualrly persuasive, would you care to back it up with a proof? [[User:CombatWombat42|CombatWombat42]] ([[User talk:CombatWombat42|talk]]) 22:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:::'''Proof?''' there are more than enuf [[wp:rs]] about the twins to support '''keep''' on wiki where the standards for inclusion are pretty low , see [[wp:gng]] There is an attitude, call it '''revenge deletion''' here , where anon users here seem to hate any editing by real life people attempting to improve their bios and if they catch on to that the wiki users attack and if possible the anon wiki users delete the article altogether. [[WP:BIASED]] , I am not biased at all , considering wiki's low standard for inclusion I see enough [[wp:notability]] to '''keep''' an article about the twins. [[User:Mosfetfaser|Mosfetfaser]] ([[User talk:Mosfetfaser|talk]]) 23:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:::'''Proof?''' there are more than enuf [[wp:rs]] about the twins to support '''keep''' on wiki where the standards for inclusion are pretty low , see [[wp:gng]] There is an attitude, call it '''revenge deletion''' here , where anon users here seem to hate any editing by real life people attempting to improve their bios and if they catch on to that the wiki users attack and if possible the anon wiki users delete the article altogether. [[WP:BIASED]] , I am not biased at all , considering wiki's low standard for inclusion I see enough [[wp:notability]] to '''keep''' an article about the twins. [[User:Mosfetfaser|Mosfetfaser]] ([[User talk:Mosfetfaser|talk]]) 23:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::::I'm well aware of GNG, that's why I !voted to delete below. Can you explain which references you consider to be "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" please? [[Special:Contributions/88.104.19.233|88.104.19.233]] ([[User talk:88.104.19.233|talk]]) 10:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
:'''Keep but partial deletion''': removal of all the unsourced and promos added by the twins and their puppets from the page history. I just did a cleanup on the article as per talk page consensus. I have removed all the unsourced, fake and self-promotional content, and rewritten some to accurately reflect the few reliable sources. Although the twins are relatively unknown to the public and the page receives fewer than 30 view counts per day, keeping this article can prevent future recreation of the same article in promotional language by their suspected sock puppets like what [[User talk:Paul Lewis Smith|Paul Lewis Smith]] did before. Also the twins may get more popular in the future. [[User:BigCat82|BigCat82]] ([[User talk:BigCat82|talk]]) 22:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
:'''Keep but partial deletion''': removal of all the unsourced and promos added by the twins and their puppets from the page history. I just did a cleanup on the article as per talk page consensus. I have removed all the unsourced, fake and self-promotional content, and rewritten some to accurately reflect the few reliable sources. Although the twins are relatively unknown to the public and the page receives fewer than 30 view counts per day, keeping this article can prevent future recreation of the same article in promotional language by their suspected sock puppets like what [[User talk:Paul Lewis Smith|Paul Lewis Smith]] did before. Also the twins may get more popular in the future. [[User:BigCat82|BigCat82]] ([[User talk:BigCat82|talk]]) 22:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::Just as and FYI and with no agreement or disagreement with your stament, pages can be [[WP:SALT]]ed to provent recreation issues. [[User:CombatWombat42|CombatWombat42]] ([[User talk:CombatWombat42|talk]]) 22:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
::Just as and FYI and with no agreement or disagreement with your stament, pages can be [[WP:SALT]]ed to provent recreation issues. [[User:CombatWombat42|CombatWombat42]] ([[User talk:CombatWombat42|talk]]) 22:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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There is no WP:notability for the pair, at best this should be split into two articles, one for each sister, although I don't think they meet the standards of notability either. CombatWombat42 (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The twins are notable together only Mosfetfaser (talk) 18:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mosfetfaser, your arguments here were particularly WP:BIASED and not particularly persuasive. Your statment "The twins are notable together only" is also not particualrly persuasive, would you care to back it up with a proof? CombatWombat42 (talk) 22:44, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Proof? there are more than enuf wp:rs about the twins to support keep on wiki where the standards for inclusion are pretty low , see wp:gng There is an attitude, call it revenge deletion here , where anon users here seem to hate any editing by real life people attempting to improve their bios and if they catch on to that the wiki users attack and if possible the anon wiki users delete the article altogether. WP:BIASED , I am not biased at all , considering wiki's low standard for inclusion I see enough wp:notability to keep an article about the twins. Mosfetfaser (talk) 23:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm well aware of GNG, that's why I !voted to delete below. Can you explain which references you consider to be "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" please? 88.104.19.233 (talk) 10:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but partial deletion: removal of all the unsourced and promos added by the twins and their puppets from the page history. I just did a cleanup on the article as per talk page consensus. I have removed all the unsourced, fake and self-promotional content, and rewritten some to accurately reflect the few reliable sources. Although the twins are relatively unknown to the public and the page receives fewer than 30 view counts per day, keeping this article can prevent future recreation of the same article in promotional language by their suspected sock puppets like what Paul Lewis Smith did before. Also the twins may get more popular in the future. BigCat82 (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just as and FYI and with no agreement or disagreement with your stament, pages can be WP:SALTed to provent recreation issues. CombatWombat42 (talk) 22:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for the info. I just found that the Romanian wiki page on Indiggo exists and needless to say the page is flooded with all unsourced promos (the Romanian wikipedia standards are probably different than the English site here). Maintaining a neutral, unbiased and accurate article about the twins here in the English site is not a bad idea. BigCat82 (talk) 22:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
BigCat, if they meet requirements in the future, then an article can be written in the future. WP:Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. 88.104.19.233 (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Check the refs carefully - they are either non-RS, or are trivial mentions. I'll happily change my !vote if more appropriate references (in whatever language) can be shown. 88.104.19.233 (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]