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Headless corpse. Not mentioned on this page. 75.41.109.190 (talk) 16:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

list at all?

should there be such a list in wikipedia?

also, shouldn't it include killed people on the other side then... 61.7.134.230 (talk) 03:06, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid ref

kplive20 reference is invalid. I tried to delete it (what else?) but it got reverted by user Lvivske. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obaymar (talk • contribs) 03:00, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Identified victims table: When was a death discovered/reported

The table should include another column that would show when the death was first reported and attributed to the name. That would help with the timeline as to when a person was found dead. -Mardus (talk) 17:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Небесна сотня

I think that "сотня" should be translated as "sotnia" because it is used as unit name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.160.235.249 (talk) 07:41, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

The Flag of Belarus is and not , is the flag of the former Belarusian People's Republic. Stop changing it!--176.67.84.185 (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

it' the former flag, and he was a political refugee from belarus. He was buried with that flag and died fighting for it, IMO it's disrespectful to put the flag of the current regime that he fled from as his nationality. We know that he's from Belarus, not that he's a current Belarusian citizen. It's like if someone was an exile from Estonia, would you put the USSR flag? --Львівське (говорити) 17:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That he was buried with that flag doesn't mean that it is the right flag in this context. And as you say he "died fighting for the flag" is nonsense. It is an Ukrainian conflict and have nothing to do with Belarus, now or then! He was a member of an Ukrainian right wing group. As you see people born in USSR have the USSR flag in many context here on Wikipedia.--176.67.84.185 (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find that for anyone born in the Baltics, the national flag is used and not the USSR flag because of the dispute. In Zhyz's case, we don't know if he left Belarus after the current flag became official, but we do know that's the flag he identified with. We also dont know if he was a current Belarusian citizen either. --Львівське (говорити) 03:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one Belarusian national flag and this is neither the Soviet one nor the fasisct one. RESPECT the validity most wikipedians have and some other country's flag and restore it now. Otherwise anyone will start imposing his own beliefs about anything-POV FFS.

Actually following your argument one could easily say that some pro-USSR Ukrainians should be labelled with the Soviet flag-something WRONG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.84.246.217 (talk) 02:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Repeated use of the word "Thug"

Not arguing about accuracy, but perhaps we can arrive at a more NPOV term. Titushki? - CompliantDrone (talk) 00:00, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German Monitor Magazin

After a long research the Monitor Magazin published a report about the identity of the Maidan snipers. The TV station is ARD http://www.ard.de/home/ard/ARD_Startseite/21920/index.html the public television in Germany which is state owned. Not a single major newspaper questioned the reliability of the report and further wrote own articles about it:

Moreover the German Wiki already uses this source. --Wrant (talk) 21:55, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the German Wiki uses this source is irrelevant. The problem is that this is half baked rumor mongering. Also it is outdated. Also it seems like there's some misrepresentation of sources going on. I can't verify the video but the text is worded so as to suggest that it was Maidan forces who shot people, whereas what, for example Die Welt source seems to say is that it was a "third party". I.e. Not Maidan. Not Yanukovych. FSB. Although then the article also discounts that theory. Hence the source is being misrepresented. Hence removed.Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes like other "half baked rumors" in almost every article about Ukraine like the involvement of Russian Special forces in Ukraine, strange that I haven't seen you so willingly deleting them? You can rewrite the text if you like. They talked about the "third party" because they couldn't identify them, logical isn't it? Though they said that they were inside the Ukraina hotel which was 100% controlled by the Maidan protestors, so they weren't for sure Janukovych's people or FSB. --Wrant (talk) 12:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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	:The fact that the German Wiki uses this source is irrelevant. The problem is that this is half baked rumor mongering. Also it is outdated. Also it seems like there's some misrepresentation of sources going on. I can't verify the video but the text is worded so as to suggest that it was Maidan forces who shot people, whereas what, for example Die Welt source seems to say is that it was a "third party". I.e. Not Maidan. Not Yanukovych. FSB. Although then the article also discounts that theory. Hence the source is being misrepresented. Hence removed.[[User:Volunteer Marek\|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek\|talk]]) 01:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)		:The fact that the German Wiki uses this source is irrelevant. The problem is that this is half baked rumor mongering. Also it is outdated. Also it seems like there's some misrepresentation of sources going on. I can't verify the video but the text is worded so as to suggest that it was Maidan forces who shot people, whereas what, for example Die Welt source seems to say is that it was a "third party". I.e. Not Maidan. Not Yanukovych. FSB. Although then the article also discounts that theory. Hence the source is being misrepresented. Hence removed.[[User:Volunteer Marek\|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek\|talk]]) 01:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

			:Yes like other "half baked rumors" in almost every article about Ukraine like the involvement of Russian Special forces in Ukraine, strange that I haven't seen you so willingly deleting them? You can rewrite the text if you like. They talked about the "third party" because they couldn't identify them, logical isn't it? Though they said that they were inside the Ukraina hotel which was 100% controlled by the Maidan protestors, so they weren't for sure Janukovych's people or FSB. --[[User:Wrant\|Wrant]] ([[User talk:Wrant\|talk]]) 12:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)