User talk:Rothorpe/Archive 24

Aboriginal Australians

Hello, Rothorpe! I've been reading the article on Aboriginal Australians and I came across something I want to ask you about. It's in the section Aboriginal Australians#Legal and administrative definitions. Right before the second block quote, which quotes former Justice Sir William Deane, it says, "Deane J said":", followed by the quote. My question is, what is that "J" doing there? I looked in the article about him and didn't see anything that would shed light on it, and it is not one of his initials, so I don't know what it is. Can you figure it out? Maybe it doesn't belong there. CorinneSD (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

My first thought was that the J after the name might be equivalent to 'Justice' before it. But in cases like this, it really is worth checking the history to see who put it there, which I'll now do. Rothorpe (talk) 17:40, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

It's been there since at least 2011 and in the process I noticed the footnote which also refers to him as Deane J, so I think that'll be a case of Australian English. Rothorpe (talk) 17:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Very interesting. Maybe it's something like our "Esq." for "Esquire", which follows the name of an attorney (lawyer) in the U.S. (with a comma). I'd be interested in learning how that abbreviation got started. Do you know that in Latin America, or at least the Spanish Caribbean countries, people often write their names last name first, then first initial or first name, with no comma? "Deane J" kind of looks like that. CorinneSD (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Some British people use 'Esq.' like that, or used to, on envelopes etc., as an alternative to 'Mr', for any man, not just lawyers. And there is a tendency here in Portugal to write names with the surname first in some formal contexts, though I haven't seen it with just the initials. Rothorpe (talk) 19:17, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Recent edit on your User page

I noticed your recent edit to your User page in the capitalization section. I only looked at it in the Revision History, not in the article, but I saw something that I didn't understand. It was after "the" in single quotation marks. It said just beat. Is that what you wanted? CorinneSD (talk) 21:34, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

You mean "uncapitalised 'the' beat capitalised"? Yes, that's intended, but I can understand how it would seem odd out of context. Please take another look. Rothorpe (talk) 21:53, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

help

some user keeps removing the fact that Eugène Terre'Blanche was the founder of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) adding unreliable new sources and claming he was a founding member of Herstigte Nasionale Party althought we just joined it as a member and was an candidate of a local election in a town 46.45.142.226 (talk) 16:46, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

OK, I'll put him back on my watchlist. Rothorpe (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Can you also please revert his latest edit to the page, i tried to do that myself many times without effect 46.45.142.226 (talk) 17:07, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

If you sign up with a user name, you can do it yourself. I don't want to get involved in a dispute I know nothing about. Rothorpe (talk) 18:02, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

why do you say you need to put that on your watchlist then? if youre not going to help remove him from that 46.45.142.226 (talk) 18:17, 11 May 2014 (UTC)