Talk:Legendary Pokémon

Defence/Water

Um...Articuno and Regice are ICE types xP Arcuneh Meeps 20:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a very simple answer to that: it doesn´t matter if they are ice or water types. For instance: Groudon and Regirock are ground and rock, but that is not the point. If you think carefully, you will see that the Regis represent a, so to say, "solid" status of the three types: Regice is ice, the solid status of water. About Registeel, electricity can not be put in a solid form, obviously. Therefore, it is steel type, because steel is metal and a representative of electrical conductors. But about Regirock, you can not turn fire into solid. Rock or ground represent the earth, and passion (just like fire, if you see the japanese five elements), and that is why Groudon is ground-type and Regirock is rock-type. remember, what counts here are not the physical part of the elements, but what they represent.

About Articuno, the reason is quite simple: try to imagine a water/flying bird. that isn't easy, especialy if you want it to be a legendary bird. in the case of articuno, the image or the physical part of it was based on the Anka (see Articuno).

Another thing I would like to add is about the Legendary Royalty. Kyogre represents water and the sea, Ground represents fire and the earth and Rayquaza represents electricity and the sky. Altough fire and earth, electricity and sky have nothing to do with each other, Sui, Ka and Fū explain this very easily, that is why I think that these Legendary Elements were inspired on the Five Elements of the Japanese philosophy.

Jorge jojae

Tier system

Why Are Ho-oh and Lugia listed with Mew on the tier system? Should this be changed or is it correct. If it is correct, perhaps elaboration on why it is so?

That question can be easily answered. The Legendary Pairs are like Yin and Yang: two opposites that can not live without each another. A good example is that Latias can not live without Latios, and vice-versa. They represent the two opposite sexes: male and female.

Mew and Mewtwo are two opposites because Mew is the Origin, the ancestor of all Pokémon and Mewtwo is the Copy, just the physical and power side of Mew. In that sence, they are like the two opposites Chi and Kū (see Five elements (Japanese philosophy)). Chi (Earth) is the material part, hard, solid, soulless maybe: Mewtwo. Kū (Void) is spirit thought, creativity, inventiveness: Mew.

Ho-oh and Lugia are two other opposites: Light and Shadow. Ho-oh is a Rainbow Pokémon, it flyes around the Earth with its magnificient, 7-coloured wings: Light (Good?). Lugia, on the other hand, is a Diving Pokémon, it lays deep in a cave, alone, because its powers are too strong: Shadow (Dark?).

Jorge jojae 14:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

The Five Elements?

I am having problems seeing a correlation between the Legendary Pokémon and the elements of Japanese philosophy. These elements, Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, and the Void (or air) are not visible in any single group of Legendary Pokémon. Moltres and Entei represent fire, Suicune and Lugia water, Ho-oh air, Regirock earth, but it doesn't appear to be notable for a complete set. Ryulong 08:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)