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Hi, this is the fellow who was changing the Gaza Tunnel page the past few days. A few hours ago I again edited the page again. After the edit I clicked the reference (#9) I had disputed. Previously when clicked I came to a page that contained no information, tonight when I clicked I came to a page that was clearly not the page the #9 referenced when I was making the edits over the last few days.
Hi, this is the fellow who was changing the Gaza Tunnel page the past few days. A few hours ago I again edited the page again. After the edit I clicked the reference (#9) I had disputed. Previously when clicked I came to a page that contained no information, tonight when I clicked I came to a page that was clearly not the page the #9 referenced when I was making the edits over the last few days.


This was the link #9 lead to previous to the recent change - http://www.palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext if clicked this is the message displayed in the page - '''The requested page "/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext" could not be found."''' --- Clearly I was correct to want to edit the page as the link was not leading to information the link and claims referenced.
This was the link #9 lead to previous to the recent change - http://www.palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext if clicked this is the message displayed in the page - '''The requested page "/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext" could not be found."''' --- Clearly I was correct to want to edit the page as the link was not leading to information the link and claims referenced. The report about children dying in Gaza tunnels is titled "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" '''but that report is not found anywhere on the internet'''.


Tonight #9 leads to a completely new and different page - so apparently someone changed the #9 reference between my edit from yesterday and my edit a few hours ago. Now the #9 reference links to a subscription only page. For 3 days when I clicked the original link it took me to a completely different website and the page (if I remember right) had been not totally deleted but the information had been removed.
Tonight #9 leads to a completely new and different page - so apparently someone changed the #9 reference between my edit from yesterday and my edit a few hours ago. Now the #9 reference links to a subscription only page. When I made the last edit I did not check the reference before editing. Once I edited this last time and then re-clicked the #9 reference link and saw a new and '''supposedly''' valid reference (supposedly valid as anyone without a subscription cannot verify the source) I undid my edit.


I still dispute the accuracy of the page as there is NO free source that can verify the claims about Palestinian children dying and as already said the report "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" is found nowhere on the internet. ''
When I made the last edit I did not check the reference before editing. Once I edited this last time and then re-clicked the #9 reference link and saw a new and '''supposedly''' valid reference (supposedly valid as anyone without a subscription cannot verify the source) I undid my edit.


I still dispute the accuracy of the page as there is NO free source that can verify the claims about Palestinian children dying and I still dispute source #4 because it relies on the previously linked source for #9 and that previous source to #9 does not exist. Source #4 refers to this study, the study from the link above that is non-existent. Now the only proof for source #9 is a subscrition based site and all the claims within #4 refer to the http://www.palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext website which is the page that says "The requested page......could not be found". There is no way to corroborate the information claimed by either #4 or #9 source.
I still dispute source #4 because it relies on the previously linked source and the report " Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege"- source #4 refers to this study, the study from the link above that is non-existent. Now the only proof for source #9 is a subscription based site and all the claims within #4 refer to the "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" study. There is no way to corroborate the information claimed by either #4 or #9 source.


Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. While Im not completely pleased, for reasons stated above, it is good to know people on Wiki are working to ensure edits, concerns, etc are looked into.
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. While Im not completely pleased, for reasons stated above, it is good to know people on Wiki are working to ensure edits, concerns, etc are looked into.

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Council on Foreign Relations

I'm not sure what your comment about "not being a reliable source" means. This organization is well known to be controversial. I expected the Wikipedia page to present numerous points of view, for and against. Instead it seems that there is no controversy surrounding the Council of Foreign Relations. How do we decide what is a reliable source? Do we not allow for differing viewpoints? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.68.3 (talk) 23:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why does Perloff's book fail the test? The document you cite says that non-neutral sources can be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.68.3 (talk) 00:11, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, this is the fellow who was changing the Gaza Tunnel page the passed few days. Earlier I edited the page again and after the edit I clicked the reference I had disputed. Previously when click I came to a page that was clearly not the page the #9 references - so apparently someone changed the #9 to now reference the subsription only page. For 3 days when I clicked the original link it took me to a completely different website and the page (if I remember right) had been not totally deleted but the information had been removed.

When I made the last edit I did not check the reference before editing. Once I edited this last time and then re-clicked the link and saw a new and supposedly valid reference (supposedly valid as anyone without a subscription cannot verify the source) I undid my edit.

I still dispute the accuracy of the page as there is NO free source that can verify the claims about Palestinian children dying and I still dispute source #4 because it relied on the previous link for source #9 and that previous source to #9 does not exist.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. While Im not completely please, for reasons stated above, it is good to know people on Wiki are working to ensure edits, concerns, etc are looked into.

I am "BobIsntHere" on Reddit fwiw. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.32.104 (talk) 09:33, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this is the fellow who was changing the Gaza Tunnel page the past few days. A few hours ago I again edited the page again. After the edit I clicked the reference (#9) I had disputed. Previously when clicked I came to a page that contained no information, tonight when I clicked I came to a page that was clearly not the page the #9 referenced when I was making the edits over the last few days.

This was the link #9 lead to previous to the recent change - http://www.palestine-studies.org/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext if clicked this is the message displayed in the page - The requested page "/journals.aspx?id=11424&jid=1&href=fulltext" could not be found." --- Clearly I was correct to want to edit the page as the link was not leading to information the link and claims referenced. The report about children dying in Gaza tunnels is titled "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" but that report is not found anywhere on the internet.

Tonight #9 leads to a completely new and different page - so apparently someone changed the #9 reference between my edit from yesterday and my edit a few hours ago. Now the #9 reference links to a subscription only page. When I made the last edit I did not check the reference before editing. Once I edited this last time and then re-clicked the #9 reference link and saw a new and supposedly valid reference (supposedly valid as anyone without a subscription cannot verify the source) I undid my edit.

I still dispute the accuracy of the page as there is NO free source that can verify the claims about Palestinian children dying and as already said the report "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" is found nowhere on the internet.

I still dispute source #4 because it relies on the previously linked source and the report " Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege"- source #4 refers to this study, the study from the link above that is non-existent. Now the only proof for source #9 is a subscription based site and all the claims within #4 refer to the "Gaza's Tunnel Phenomenon: The Unintended Dynamics of Israel's Siege" study. There is no way to corroborate the information claimed by either #4 or #9 source.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. While Im not completely pleased, for reasons stated above, it is good to know people on Wiki are working to ensure edits, concerns, etc are looked into.

I am "BobIsntHere" on Reddit fwiw. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.32.104 (talk) 09:37, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]