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Corrected "Czeslovakia" to "Czechoslovakia", hhuhuhuhuhuhuhujust in case this article is not deleted. ([[User:Xenoncloud|Xenoncloud]] 17:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC))
Corrected "Czeslovakia" to "Czechoslovakia", just in case this article is not deleted. ([[User:Xenoncloud|Xenoncloud]] 17:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC))




Propose speedy delete as of this moment it has no content. If you are working on it, you oughtta put a notice on the page. [[[[Pulchritudinous|PaulinSaudi]] 15:09, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)]]
Propose speedy delete as of this moment it has no content. If you are working on it, you oughtta put a notice on the page. [[[[User:PaulinSaudi|PaulinSaudi]] 15:09, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)]]


I attempted to move [[Anti-tank vehicle]] to this page but accidently moved it to [[tank destroyers]] instead; if somebody could help me move it here, please.
I attempted to move [[Anti-tank vehicle]] to this page but accidently moved it to [[tank destroyers]] instead; if somebody could help me move it here, please.
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as it is no longer true. The Improved TOW Vehicle (the M-901?) is now sitting in target ranges all over the Army. It is no longer in service. [[User:PaulinSaudi|Paul, in Saudi]] 17:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
as it is no longer true. The Improved TOW Vehicle (the M-901?) is now sitting in target ranges all over the Army. It is no longer in service. [[User:PaulinSaudi|Paul, in Saudi]] 17:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


:Is it true that large numbers of M-901s have been gbbitchiven to the new Iraqi military as military aid from the US?
:Is it true that large numbers of M-901s have been given to the new Iraqi military as military aid from the US?


1630 Hours 14 April 2006
1630 Hours 14 April 2006
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Gentlemen. I am a content expert on the subject of US armored forces and TD Forces. Please discuss before you revert my edits.
Gentlemen. I am a content expert on the subject of US armored forces and TD Forces. Please discuss before you revert my edits.


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Chinese designs
Chinese designs


I was previously unaware of the PTO, but the Chinese do produce a tracked vehicle which my sources call the Type 86 or Type 1986, which has a 120mm gun that is a (licensed? probably not) copy of the Nonmetallic 120mm/L44 smoothbore mounted in a semi-fixed forward orientation with very limited traverse and elevation. My sources differ on whether it is produced for export; logically I would expect such a vehicle for domestic military use to use the Chinese version of the Russian 125mm smootbore as used on all their current front-line tanks.
I was previously unaware of the PTL02, but the Chinese do produce a tracked vehicle which my sources call the Type 86 or Type 1986, which has a 120mm gun that is a (licensed? probably not) copy of the Rheinmetall 120mm/L44 smoothbore mounted in a semi-fixed forward orientation with very limited traverse and elevation. My sources differ on whether it is produced for export; logically I would expect such a vehicle for domestic military use to use the Chinese version of the Russian 125mm smootbore as used on all their current front-line tanks.


Likewise, it seems to me that it makes little sense to put the antiquated 100mm gun in a vehicle of new design, when even China's second-line armor formations are mostly now armed with vehicles like the Type 79 and Type 80, which are very approximately T69s upgunned with the Chinese version of the NATO 105mm gun. Putting an obsolete tank gun in a turret on a cheap wheeled APC chassis seems like the sort of thing the Chinese would manufacture for export, but the contributor who mentions them says they seem to be intended for use by front-line light motorized formations. Are we sure about this?
Likewise, it seems to me that it makes little sense to put the antiquated 100mm gun in a vehicle of new design, when even China's second-line armor formations are mostly now armed with vehicles like the Type 79 and Type 80, which are very approximately T69s upgunned with the Chinese version of the NATO 105mm gun. Putting an obsolete tank gun in a turret on a cheap wheeled APC chassis seems like the sort of thing the Chinese would manufacture for export, but the contributor who mentions them says they seem to be intended for use by front-line light motorized formations. Are we sure about this?

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Corrected "Czeslovakia" to "Czechoslovakia", just in case this article is not deleted. (Xenoncloud 17:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]


Propose speedy delete as of this moment it has no content. If you are working on it, you oughtta put a notice on the page. [[PaulinSaudi 15:09, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)]]

I attempted to move Anti-tank vehicle to this page but accidently moved it to tank destroyers instead; if somebody could help me move it here, please. --Martin Wisse 15:13, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

My my! This page has shaped up nicely! I just removed thie

and a company of anti-tank vehicles,

as it is no longer true. The Improved TOW Vehicle (the M-901?) is now sitting in target ranges all over the Army. It is no longer in service. Paul, in Saudi 17:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is it true that large numbers of M-901s have been given to the new Iraqi military as military aid from the US?

1630 Hours 14 April 2006

Gentlemen. I am a content expert on the subject of US armored forces and TD Forces. Please discuss before you revert my edits.

Philippsbourg

Chinese designs

I was previously unaware of the PTL02, but the Chinese do produce a tracked vehicle which my sources call the Type 86 or Type 1986, which has a 120mm gun that is a (licensed? probably not) copy of the Rheinmetall 120mm/L44 smoothbore mounted in a semi-fixed forward orientation with very limited traverse and elevation. My sources differ on whether it is produced for export; logically I would expect such a vehicle for domestic military use to use the Chinese version of the Russian 125mm smootbore as used on all their current front-line tanks.

Likewise, it seems to me that it makes little sense to put the antiquated 100mm gun in a vehicle of new design, when even China's second-line armor formations are mostly now armed with vehicles like the Type 79 and Type 80, which are very approximately T69s upgunned with the Chinese version of the NATO 105mm gun. Putting an obsolete tank gun in a turret on a cheap wheeled APC chassis seems like the sort of thing the Chinese would manufacture for export, but the contributor who mentions them says they seem to be intended for use by front-line light motorized formations. Are we sure about this?

Does anyone have any information about 1, whether the Type 86 and PTL02 are intended for export, 2, whether the Chinese are manufacturing a version of the Type 86 with a 125mm gun, and 3, whether the PTL02 has a 100mm or a 105mm gun?

The future?

any new models come out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.142.49.135 (talk) 11:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

German designs

The Sturmgeschütz III was the most successful german TD, but it is not even mentioned. Why? Markus Becker02 12:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because you haven't rectified the problem yet. Be bold! Michael Z. 2006-09-03 01:09 Z
Done! But better ask fist, before some "uncontroversial" information starts an edit war. Markus Becker02 17:40, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NBC

How the world loves an acronym, however, in this case might i suggest giving the full meaning as an aside. I realize there is a link given but i would assume the term is seldom known by lay folk and so i think it would just be common courtesy as well as cutting down on Wiki server traffic.

Normally i would be more than happy to do this myself as it is after all such a minor edit, but alas i am here on my mobile phone and for some reason i can't access my log in. Could someone be so kind?

Outofthewoods

58.145.148.3 (talk) 08:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got that for you. 75.85.65.87 (talk) 07:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

difference tank vs tank destroyer

The introduction says

Tanks are generally armoured fighting vehicles designed for front-line combat which combines operational mobility and tactical offensive and defensive capabilities and perform all primary tasks of the armoured troops on the battlefield; the tank destroyer on the other hand is specifically designed mainly for taking on enemy armour.

But what does that mean? Specifically, what differences - in practice - separate a tank from a tank destroyer? What do you look for on, say, a 1943 armoured vehicle to say with confidence whether it is a tank or a tank destroyer? CapnZapp (talk) 13:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Missing info

At the end of section "1.4 United States", the sentence ends abruptly with missing content. "A prototype Super-Heavy Tank Destroyer was..." The next line is "1.5 British". Does anyone know of or have access to what the rest should have been? Jarod (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the line from the article (via Undo), which was the only content added in one particular edit. Jarod (talk) 19:44, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]