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*March 23, 2015: [[User talk:Holzman-tweed/archive1|Archive1]] |
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== Talkback == |
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== [[Jeff Mach]] == |
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I'm wondering why this person is notable. His company doesn't seem to meet our [[WP:CORP|notability requirements for companies]] and he does not appear to meet our [[WP:BIO|notability requirements for people]]. The article uses primarily [[WP:SPS|unreliable sources]] such as blogs which will need to be removed per our [[WP:BLP|biographies of living people policy]]. Such sources can't be used to establish notability even in articles not about living people. I hate to ask this, but is Mach a friend or associate of yours? If so, you should probably take a look at our [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] policy. Thanks. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 16:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::Taking each point separetely: |
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#I would hope that I am a good enough author that I explained this person's notability in the article, as documented by the references to for example Ren Faire News and North Jersey News. I believe Mr. Mach's various works and the recognition they have received are notable in the same way that [[John Boardman]]'s efforts in play-by-mail gaming are notable. (While Prof. Boardman is also notable as a physicist, I think he's better known for his efforts in Diplomacy-by-mail). |
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#My reading of [[WP:BLOGS]] is that blogs one publishes about oneself are to be regarded as unreliable (and primary!). If a second person publishes a blog containing non-contentious information about the primary source, I don't see how that's different from how the source is different from a newspaper publishing articles written by writers in its employ. |
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#I am acquainted with Mr. Mach and have volunteered to work at some of his events. I am familiar with [[WP:COI]], which discourages but does not forbid potentially conflicted editors from editing, and I will be happy to note this on the talk page. More importantly, I believe I have written an article that complies with [[WP:NPOV]]. If you disagree, I am happy to discuss any specific statements in the article you feel are not neutral. |
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:::Thanks for the disclosure. You wouldn't believe how many people resist such disclosure. I've got no problem with your editing the articles because it is much easier to trust someone willing to disclose. On blogs, [[WP:SPS|self-published sources]] can't be used for anything on Wikipedia with very few exceptions. Blogs can never be used a sources in articles about [[WP:BLP|living people]]. For other articles, the only exception is if the blog post is written by a ''previously published expert'' in the field being blogged about, and this exception does not apply to articles about living people. In fact, we generally can't even link to blogs in the [[WP:EL|external links]] section of articles. Even when blogs can be used, they don't contribute to notability. Notability can only be shown by "[[WP:GNG|significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject]]". For living people, this normally means ''significant biographical coverage''. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 20:04, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::My thinking about notability of Mach, his company and events is that the most major event ''might just'' be notable, but that Mach and his company are not, because [[WP:NOTINHERITED|notability is not inherited]]. If the primary event is notable, then the company and the individual can be mentioned in the article about the event, but I don't believe there is enough reliable biographical material to support a stand-alone article on Mach or sufficient reliable sources about the company to support a stand-alone article on it either. Having an article about Mach could be a liability to both him and Wikipedia. Very few people watch articles about non- or marginally-notable individuals. If the guy has any enemies, the article becomes a target for publishing libel, which can stay there for some time before it is noticed. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 20:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::: Ironic -- my intention in including the blogs was to show widespread notability in an area that favor blogs as their media because newspapers don't necessarily fully cover them, yet founded on notibility rooted in published sources -- much in the way that several blogs are used as sources in [[G.D. Falksen]]'s page without challenge. (Part of my editing practice is to try to model new pages or modified pages on what seem to be well established and accepted pre-existing pages.) If [[Steampunk World's Fair]] isn't notable, I can't see how any SF convention or personality is notable, and plenty of them have pages with mild or no challenge. I'm certainly prepared to maintain each of the pages in question, adding material from better regarded sources as I find them. (I also watch the articles in which I make a significant editorial interest.) - [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 21:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::::: On blogs, if they are self-published, the self-published policy applies. However, if they have an editorial staff, accept submissions and ''verify'' material before publication, then they are a reliable source that just happens to use blog format. Hope this help you distinguish what is necessary when it comes to blogs. The [[Steampunk World's Fair]] looks like it ''just barely'' meets our notability requirements. One more good source and I'll take off the notability tag. But do be careful about comparing to other articles ... the usual result is the tagging or deletion of those other articles rather than the argument supporting the notability of the article in question. We call it the [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS|other stuff exists argument]]. [[User:Yworo|Yworo]] ([[User talk:Yworo|talk]]) 21:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::: Where's a good place to document whether a given blog has an editorial staff, accepts submissions, and verifies material before publication? I think some of the blogs I've included, for example the Tor.com blog, qualify. Also, how about blogs where the editor(s) publish as well as accept submissions? [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 04:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::: I have added sources to SPWF and reviewed the sources on the Jeff Mach page. The [[talk:Jeff Mach|Jeff Mach talk page]] has notes and questions on what I've left, if a source was clearly insufficient I've removed it. |
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[[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 21:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== February 2012 == |
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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] [[Wikipedia:Introduction|Welcome]] to Wikipedia. Please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that '''[[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biographical information about living persons]]''' must not include [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|unsupported or inaccurate statements]]. Whenever you add possibly controversial statements about a living person to an article or any other Wikipedia page, as you did to [[:Sachi Matsumoto]], you '''must include proper [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|sources]]'''. If you don't know how to [[WP:Citing sources|cite a source]], you may want to read [[Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners]] for guidelines. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-biog1 --> [[User:Cutecutecuteface2000|Cutecutecuteface2000]] ([[User talk:Cutecutecuteface2000|Questions, comments, complaints?]]) 05:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:My sole change to the [[Sachi Matsumoto]] page was to add an infobox. The infobox contains nothing that was not contained in the main article, specifically a date of birth. You cannot possibly be suggesting that a date of birth is controversial, but if you would like that referenced I will happily cite the IMDB entry. On this basis, I am going to undo your revert. Please do not undo this change again without identifying the specific information you regard as controversial and in need of a source.[[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 14:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::IMDB is not a reliable source FYI. [[User:Cutecutecuteface2000|Cutecutecuteface2000]] ([[User talk:Cutecutecuteface2000|Questions, comments, complaints?]]) 16:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::Then why have you failed to remove Ms. Matsumoto's date of birth from the main body of the article? Your reverts are not internally consistent: please explain.[[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 16:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::I removed it. And note: IMDb is not a reliable source because it consists of user-submitted info and as such is prone to factual errors. [[User:Cutecutecuteface2000|Cutecutecuteface2000]] ([[User talk:Cutecutecuteface2000|Questions, comments, complaints?]]) 17:00, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::As of this writing, you have not removed the following text from the article: "born March 29, 1973." Do you regard this as contentious or not? The only thing you seem to have removed is the infobox.[[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 17:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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::::::I have removed it. Thanks for pointing it out. [[User:Cutecutecuteface2000|Cutecutecuteface2000]] ([[User talk:Cutecutecuteface2000|Questions, comments, complaints?]]) 17:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::::::I will now boggle that you consider date of birth to be contentious. [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 17:09, 16 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:I provided an e-mail from the creator/owner of the image granting permission to use it when I uploaded. I'm not clear what more is needed? [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 06:00, 2 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:I provided an e-mail from the creator/owner of the image granting permission to use it when I uploaded. I'm not clear what more is needed? [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 05:59, 2 March 2014 (UTC) |
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:Which files? [[User:Holzman-tweed|Holzman-Tweed]] ([[User talk:Holzman-tweed#top|talk]]) 05:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC) |
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