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Congratulations on earning the Million Award by improving the English language article

		The Million Award
		For your contributions to bring English language (estimated annual readership: 3,200,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 17:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was fun working with you on this article. Keep up the good work. See you on the wiki. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 17:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Irataba

Maunus, Irataba has been restarted now due to the extensive changes. I'm not prepared for you to continue to expand it anymore and have reviewers come and support and then it have to be restarted again. Do you just have the Sherer book to do now? This can't continue to keep being expanded while the FAC is going on. How much more are you planning on adding? If you can give me some indication of when you can complete your work on it I'll make a note at the FAC.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just got the Sherer book now. I don't plan, I just write as I read. I can wait untill the review is over if you want. The FAC looked stale to me. None of the people requesting further work seems to have looked at it again. I still haven't gotten the Waters book. Sorry about the restart, but even without my recent changes it is true that the article has bvasically been rewritten during the review.169.228.146.30 (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I really think it's best you use those books and make it as good as possible and then it can be renommed. I believe that when an article is nommed it should be fully completed and comprehensive as possible. I'm withdrawing it. If you don't continue with it I'll renom myself at a later date. I do hope you'll return and stick with it. It really can't keep undergoing such changes while the FAC is running.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that seems to be a good idea - we can always individually request the people who already supported to look at the article again when you renom it. What I am finding is that RO seems to have read quite selectively - so that a lot of important information is not used, even from the books they have used to support other specific facts. For example the attack on Iratabas ranch was left out, - which seems necessary to understand the process of subjugation. Also the number of settlers killed in the Rose-Baley party was highly exaggerated, and didnt note that the second family were killed by Hualapais and Mohaves acting independently. So I do think it is a good idea that I look through the remaining sources as well. 169.228.146.30 (talk) 18:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did take a good look in google books and newspapers myself but in the UK access to a lot of sources isn't possible and there's still books not scanned in google books of course. His biographical material is sketchy but it seems there were some gaps to be filled in you're seeing in your books. I think we can produce the best possible article on this, it's important that you read as much as possible I think. I hope you return after your break and continue with it, and we can renominate it in a month or two. It's already come such a long way and I think it's a worthy subject.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 :::I really think it's best you use those books and make it as good as possible and then it can be renommed. I believe that when an article is nommed it should be fully completed and comprehensive as possible. I'm withdrawing it. If you don't continue with it I'll renom myself at a later date. I do hope you'll return and stick with it. It really can't keep undergoing such changes while the FAC is running.♦ [[User:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 18:46, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 :::::Ok, that seems to be a good idea - we can always individually request the people who already supported to look at the article again when you renom it. What I am finding is that RO seems to have read quite selectively - so that a lot of important information is not used, even from the books they have used to support other specific facts. For example the attack on Iratabas ranch was left out, - which seems necessary to understand the process of subjugation. Also the number of settlers killed in the Rose-Baley party was highly exaggerated, and didnt note that the second family were killed by Hualapais and Mohaves acting independently. So I do think it is a good idea that I look through the remaining sources as well. [[Special:Contributions/169.228.146.30|169.228.146.30]] ([[User talk:169.228.146.30|talk]]) 18:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
+:::::::I did take a good look in google books and newspapers myself but in the UK access to a lot of sources isn't possible and there's still books not scanned in google books of course. His biographical material is sketchy but it seems there were some gaps to be filled in you're seeing in your books. I think we can produce the best possible article on this, it's important that you read as much as possible I think. I hope you return after your break and continue with it, and we can renominate it in a month or two. It's already come such a long way and I think it's a worthy subject.♦ [[User:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 19:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)