Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the longest-lived United States Governors (2nd nomination)

List of the longest-lived United States Governors

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Firstly, I apologise for renominating this so quickly after a "Keep" decision. While I acknowledge it is somewhat irregular, I believe that events subsequent to the previous closure justify getting the community to take a second look at this one. I have proposed this course of action on the article talk page and after ten days there were no objections. There have been two deletions of very similar articles as "Delete" in the past few days:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the 100 oldest members of the United States House of Representatives
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the oldest United States Senators

Both of these articles had the same sort of problem that this one does; namely that WP:LISTN requires that "a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". There are no sources that discuss long-lived Governors (as distinct from long-serving or aged Governors like Strom Thurmond), and this list seems to have been compiled mainly as an exercise in original research.

I will after nominating this ping all editors who participated in the previous AFD, as well as in the two similar recent discussions. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:46, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Notifying @Legacypac, Pburka, Dangermouse600, RoadView, Czolgolz, Alansohn, and Allthefoxes: @David in DC, NinjaRobotPirate, Ricky81682, Dirtlawyer1, JTtheOG, and Star Garnet:. If I have missed anyone, please do notify them of this discussion. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

• Delete. I can source the first and second longest-lived governors, but beyond that, I don't think reliable sources really care. It's easy enough to source individual birth and death dates, but to say that we should sort these people in descending order in a list would require coverage of the topic itself. I don't really see that. If someone can point out of news story about the top ten longest-lived governors, I would consider that a good start on evidence of notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:07, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:53, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

• Keep - As I stated on the previous AfDs, this is not the strongest of list topics for cross categorizing, but not enough for deleting. Every entry can be referenced to a bio page and the ages are compiled from such. OR doesn't apply to this list in my opinion. While there might not be other known lists out there that mirror this one to back it up, there is clearly defined criteria for inclusion with no ambiguity. It's a list of people that are obviously notable and factoring in longevity which is at least arguably notable as well. I see no strongly compelling reason to delete this.