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::The Internal Revenue Service is aware of thousands and thousands of people every year who commit federal tax crimes. Only about two to three thousand per year are actually prosecuted. The decision to prosecute is not made by the Internal Revenue Service. [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 02:07, 17 September 2016 (UTC) |
::The Internal Revenue Service is aware of thousands and thousands of people every year who commit federal tax crimes. Only about two to three thousand per year are actually prosecuted. The decision to prosecute is not made by the Internal Revenue Service. [[User:Famspear|Famspear]] ([[User talk:Famspear|talk]]) 02:07, 17 September 2016 (UTC) |
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Famspear, my dear, are you unable to read the CODE OF CONDUCT FOR UNITED STATES JUDGES, which I took the trouble to quote to you? All of your silly "no," "no," "nos," can't change the facts as I've presented them here, so please stop your whining. Furthermore, you are unfit to comment on Irwin Schiff or the federal tax scam he brought to light in his numerous books, particularly in his masterpiece, THE GREAT INCOME TAX HOAX (1985), <ref>http://paynoincometax.com/hoax/index.htm</ref> in which he presented irrefutable evidence of the conspiracy and fraud being perpetrated by those who forcibly take and positively benefit from federal taxes, because of you own beneficial interest as a tax lawyer in the government's tax scam. Schiff's HOAX, by the way, remains the most authoritative history of taxation in America from colonial times to the present. As a member of the federal tax industry that benefits greatly from the federal tax fraud, you are as compromised by your beneficial interest in the scam as those Malemutes who call themselves federal judges and those tax-paid prosecutors at the DOJ who shill for the scam, who are bought and paid for by revenues from the tax scam. The judges, prosecutors and tax-industry sycophants like you have, as the CODE OF CONDUCT states, have "a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy...that could be affected substantially by the outcome of the proceeding;..." and you are thereby disqualified to state an unbiased, honest opinion here. Rest assured, my dear Famspear, that all reasonable people, like those who wrote the CODE OF CONDUCT FOR JUDGES, and those who read this page, will recognize immediately that judges and prosecutors who are paid from the proceeds of federal income taxes are unfit to prosecute or judge cases against those who challenge the legality of those taxes or the unlawful manner of their collection. |
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Irwin Schiff
Dear Ned: I see that you are still up to your tricks (in this case, at the article on Irwin Schiff a few weeks ago). The government actually prosecutes very few people who are known to have committed federal tax crimes. Only about 2,000 to 3,000 are prosecuted every year. So, for you to try to imply, in the article -- with your own commentary -- that the government somehow struggled to get convictions of Schiff's supporters is misleading, and is undocumented original research. The government was very successful.
In fact, so far as is known, no follower of Schiff has ever been acquitted of federal tax crimes. Of all the con artists who have promulgated tax protester arguments, he has the dubious distinction of having had the highest number of followers convicted. That's not something he should have been proud of. Helping to ruin other people's lives is also something he should not have been proud of. Famspear (talk) 11:06, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Dearest Famspear, I see you are still up to your old habit of dishonesty. To correct the record: No follower of Irwin Schiff, nor Irwin Schiff himself, has ever been convicted in a court in a case wherein the presiding judge was not being directly compensated with munificent emoluments by the party opposing Schiff (viz., The United States)or any of his followers. All of the judges in those cases were on the payroll of the opposing party and receiving financial compensation from the opposing party in flagrant violation of the CODE OF CONDUCT FOR UNITED STATES JUDGES [1]), specifically, and I quote: "Cannon 3, Section(C) Disqualification. (1) A judge shall disqualify himself or herself in a proceeding in which the judge’s impartiality might reasonably be questioned, including but not limited to instances in which:...(c) the judge knows that the judge, individually or as a fiduciary, or the judge’s spouse or minor child residing in the judge’s household, has a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy or in a party to the proceeding, or any other interest that could be affected substantially by the outcome of the proceeding;..."
Furthermore, the very taxes (viz., federal income and other employment taxes) that Schiff and his followers were challenging constituted the very source of the judges munificent pay and benefits, so that the question of the judges' having a personal, financial interest is beyond dispute.
As for your incoherent comment that "no follower of Schiff has ever been acquitted of federal tax crimes," that deceptive sophistry ignores the crucial fact that only relatively few of Schiff's tens of thousands [2] of followers have ever been charged with federal tax crimes, and all of those few convictions were in courts wherein the judges' judicial integrity was palpably compromised for being paid by the party bringing charges against those innocent victims. Convictions in courts where it is indisputable that the judges have been bought by the prosecution and paid for with the proceeds from federal taxes are badges of honor for standing up to the criminals participating in the federal tax fraud.
Those lives you refer to as being ruined were ruined by those Malemutes, as Schiff appropriately called them, who were posing as disinterested federal judges. Schiff obviously had nothing to do with those unlawful prosecution of which you seem so proud. That was the work of the thugs in the IRS, DOJ and federal judiciary. Did you have a hand in those crimes?Ned Netterville (talk) 19:17, 16 September 2016 (UTC)Ned Netterville
- That's baloney. No, nothing I have written is dishonest. No, my comment about followers of Schiff is not "incoherent." And no, my comment is not deceptive, and no it's not sophistry. And, no, you're not "correcting" the record. You're repeating frivolous tax protester arguments. The idea that because federal judges are paid from the U.S. Treasury, they can't be impartial in a Federal tax case is blatant nonsense. This is garbage that tax protesters have already tried in court. A judge's impartiality cannot be "reasonably questioned" in a tax case merely because the judge is paid from the Treasury. No, the integrity of judges is not "palpably compromised." No federal judge has ever been "bought by the prosecution" in a federal tax case. You are wrong.
- The federal income tax system is not a "fraud." It is mind-numbingly complex, it is sometimes unfair. It is not a "fraud." No, the prosecution of those who followed Schiff was not "unlawful."
- The Internal Revenue Service is aware of thousands and thousands of people every year who commit federal tax crimes. Only about two to three thousand per year are actually prosecuted. The decision to prosecute is not made by the Internal Revenue Service. Famspear (talk) 02:07, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
Famspear, my dear, are you unable to read the CODE OF CONDUCT FOR UNITED STATES JUDGES, which I took the trouble to quote to you? All of your silly "no," "no," "nos," can't change the facts as I've presented them here, so please stop your whining. Furthermore, you are unfit to comment on Irwin Schiff or the federal tax scam he brought to light in his numerous books, particularly in his masterpiece, THE GREAT INCOME TAX HOAX (1985), [3] in which he presented irrefutable evidence of the conspiracy and fraud being perpetrated by those who forcibly take and positively benefit from federal taxes, because of you own beneficial interest as a tax lawyer in the government's tax scam. Schiff's HOAX, by the way, remains the most authoritative history of taxation in America from colonial times to the present. As a member of the federal tax industry that benefits greatly from the federal tax fraud, you are as compromised by your beneficial interest in the scam as those Malemutes who call themselves federal judges and those tax-paid prosecutors at the DOJ who shill for the scam, who are bought and paid for by revenues from the tax scam. The judges, prosecutors and tax-industry sycophants like you have, as the CODE OF CONDUCT states, have "a financial interest in the subject matter in controversy...that could be affected substantially by the outcome of the proceeding;..." and you are thereby disqualified to state an unbiased, honest opinion here. Rest assured, my dear Famspear, that all reasonable people, like those who wrote the CODE OF CONDUCT FOR JUDGES, and those who read this page, will recognize immediately that judges and prosecutors who are paid from the proceeds of federal income taxes are unfit to prosecute or judge cases against those who challenge the legality of those taxes or the unlawful manner of their collection.