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**Most of that is over at the article [[Chief Illiniwek]] -- [[User:Thesquire|Thesquire]] <small>([[User_talk:Thesquire|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Thesquire|contribs]])</small> 07:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*Lastly, as a general note, some single-sentence grafs could be combined with their neighbors. |
*Lastly, as a general note, some single-sentence grafs could be combined with their neighbors. |
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Library
The library, while justifiably famous for its breadth, probably (I say probably) doesn't contain 22MM volumes. I believe the link cited indicates "items". Most libraries carry photographs and other items. Volumes are probably a separate itemization. On that basis, the library is probably 3rd or so, but not as large as the Library of Congress (which the number approximates).
- See News-Gazette report. It states that the library got its 10 millionth volume in 2003. About the number 22 million, the report states that:
- The library has more than 22 million items. In addition to its 10 million books, those items include manuscripts, pamphlets, maps, microform, computer files, film and video materials, and music scores.
- So I guess this settles the matter. Thanks. --Ragib 04:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Non-notable photos
I don't think posting the photos of non-notable buildings in the UIUC encyclopedia article is proper. Why not post photos of Lincoln Hall and the Psych building, and... You get the idea. Main quad and engineering quad are notable. --G3pro 14:23, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Very Notable Photos
Beckman and CSL are the two main buildings on the Engineering quad, if you don't believe them notable you don't know anything about the University. I plan on adding articles on them shortly. PDE 16:21, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Good idea. I'm thinking about doing a UIUC engineering article and moving engineering related things all into that. Including the Siebel article. --G3pro 17:32, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Check out UIUC College of Engineering. It's a stub with the info from the Siebel article, but I want to put all engineering info into the article in the future. I am envisioning a course/buildings/history/accomplishments descrition for many UIUC engineering fields. --G3pro 17:39, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- CSL is notable because it employs such a brilliant network admin... -- Jbamb 01:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Notable Alumni
What's wrong with keeping (Max Levchin, B.S. 1997, co-founder of PayPal) in Notable Alumni section? I have seen his name on a wall in Siebel Center. He also gave talks in CS dept some years ago. I do think he can be added to the notable alumni list. --Ragib 22:59, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Poll on University Naming Conventions
A new survey has been created to assess consensus with respect to university naming conventions, specifically regarding the usage of terms like "University of Texas" vs. "University of Texas at Austin". The poll addresses this issue both in the specific case of the "University of Maryland" and proposes an amendment to Wikipedia:Naming conventions which could impact a large number of additional pages, including this one. Dragons flight 17:39, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
Transportation Section Off-Topic
The section on Transportation was becoming a mini-article on the MTD, which already has a page: Champaign-Urbana Mass Transit District. Awards for the MTD mentioned on this page should be referenced in the main MTD article and actually be for campus. Thesquire 22:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Encyclopedic Character
I have removed the "Trivia" section for two reasons. First, there are more famous ghosts, hauntings, stories, legends, etc, on the campus than the one cited. Secondly, the claim was unsourced and out of place when compared to the entries for the rest of the Big Ten.
Also, the "Residence" section as it now stands suffers from poor organization and POV. I will attempt to fix this as best I can, but this will likely need an extended amount of attention.
When adding text to the article, please consider appropriateness and NPOV. Thesquire 15:58, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- I completely agree on the removal of the Trivia section, which was downright non-sense anyway. I am curious about the residence section, though. Do you mean the criticism of the private landlords? In fact, that part on private party residences can be totally removed. --Ragib 16:31, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
School Location
Given that the school is (admittedly in the article) almost equally divided between Champaign and Urbana, is there any value in listing both cities under 'location' in the Univ taxobox? -- RB McLeroy 12:59, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the school itself started in Urbana, which is why that city is usually listed. However, while most of the academic buildings and dorms are in Urbana, a few are in Champaign, along with most of the administrative and athletic buildings. As such, I see no problem with adding Champaign, other than figuring out how to properly format it. Thesquire 03:11, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
Categories
If all the campuses of SIU are listed in Category:Universities and colleges in Illinois, there should be no reason that the campuses of the UofI aren't. As such, I'm restoring this article to that category. Thesquire 08:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Userbox for UIUC alum
{{User UIUC}} can be added to your user page if you want to put a userbox there that you are a UIUC person. -- Jbamb 01:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Merge of Xtension Chords
Personally, I'm against this, since it'd not only mess up the tone of the article, but also because I have serious doubts as to whether the group passes WP:MUSIC. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 18:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, I'll withdraw the merger request and tag it as a possible WP:MUSIC problem... though it might be worth considering creating a new, catch-all article titled Student Activities and Clubs at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Kevyn 15:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
greek life
I don't see why this article would need to be burdened with a huge, irrelevant list of fraternities and a table of their year of establishment. The greek life is already discussed in detail, no need to take a significant part of the article to give the table. Thanks. --Ragib 17:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. The section could do with a little expanding (not a lot, just a little) but the full list of greek letter organizations is a bit much. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 20:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone have a cite for the 48% statistic? I am am undergrad at U of I and that number seems awfully high. Atound here the most common number to hear is 20%. Rixnixon 23:55, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I found what the actual numbers are, but I'm not sure how to get the citations to format correctly. For some reason every reference is off by one in the endnotes. Does someone with a bit more experience know how to fix this? Rixnixon 16:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Gen Upgrade needed
This is a very disappointing article for such a great university, and alma mater of my late Dad. It doesn't do his school justice. You need to dump the list. Add "academics" and "history" sections, to name a few, and focus on the things that make this school great. This article is both thin and short. Might want to check out Michigan State and Michigan articles for guidance (both of these schools had Featured articles). The WikiProject Michigan group is worth emulating.151.197.170.126 05:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
GA nom
This is a very promising article, and I want to give it a pass, but I think several things need to be done.
- First, get the article format more in line with WikiProject Universities. This really involves moving a couple of sections around. This isn't just for formality's sake ... the very first thing after the table of contents shouldn't be just a linked list (it should be the campus section).
- The organization section, likewise, shouldn't be just a listing of the university's colleges. As per the project page, explain its governance.
- The referencing in the article is promising but needs to be more complete. I'd like to see something on the half-million total degrees awarded, for starters.
- "UIUC is one of the few educational institutions to own an airport. The university owns and operates the Willard Airport" Not only could these two sentences be combined, I'd like to see some citation on the "one of the few". It sounds true, but sounds true isn't good enough.
- "The university has the largest Greek system in the world." This is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary proof and it isn't in the sources at the other two footnotes. I cannot see a Good Article having such a claim unsupported. Likewise, "Many of the fraternity and sorority houses on campus are on the National Registry of Historic Places." Can we see a link to the appropriate webpage to support this?
- "The University has the largest public university library in the world" Again, an extraordinary claim ... and one that isn't backed up by the ALA page linked. All that demonstrates is that UIUC has the largest public university library in the United States. Change it or find the appropriate source.
- According to the University's web site, http://www.uiuc.edu/overview/explore/library.html, it does claim to have the largest public university library in the world. I've added the citation to the article. Mrquizzical 06:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- OK, good, but that should also make clear the university claims this. Daniel Case 20:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed--I've been looking for an independent source but haven't found one yet. I added the "claims" language into the article. If anyone can supply additional verification we can take it back out. Mrquizzical 23:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I would also like to see some sources on the mascot controversy.
- Most of that is over at the article Chief Illiniwek -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 07:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Lastly, as a general note, some single-sentence grafs could be combined with their neighbors.
Don't take this too hard ... this is a fine article here and those of you who've worked on it have much to be proud of. This has FA potential if you develop it further. I'll check back in a week to see what you've done. Daniel Case 23:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Addendum: I have tagged the three spots in the article re sourcing that must be addressed somehow. Daniel Case 03:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)