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Why is there a director, producer, etc. listed in an article about a short story? Shouldn't that specifically be reserved for an article about the movie. Two entirely different things can't be combined, all of that should be deleted until there's a separate article. Promontoriumispromontorium (talk) 00:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spoilers

Is it worth it to put spoiler notices in this article?--Martin925 03:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, there isn't much to spoil.--69.183.219.251 17:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thi story is a wonderful story about culture and how oppsites comibne forces to be ne ja..ɸ —.197.84]] (talk) 23:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Bold text[reply]

Yes it is worth it to put spoilers in here. You come to wiki looking for information, and maybe a 'leg up' on your fellow classmates. Jeffersonman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffersonman85 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WTF?

>"The meaning of the title requires the reader to read deeper within the short story. "

What does this mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.214.44 (talk) 01:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

I feel like the description of the characters and the story is very biased. I am studying this short story and the interpretation of Dee as a "selfish" young woman who is simply following a trend when she tries to deepen her association with her heritage is just that - an interpretation. We can't know if that's actually true as Mama's judgment of Dee is heavily biased.

The description of Dee in this article is similar to the one Mama would make, but it doesn't acknowledge that her point of view is really crooked (one example among many: at some point in the story Mama makes the comment that she actually believes Dee would've danced around the ashes of their burned house.. hard to believe anyone would dance around the ashes of their own home).

So this article needs to be revised for bias. -Kuгtѕκγωαικєг^{Talk/Contrıbs} 23:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mama's Story
It is important to remember that this is Mama's bitch ass story told from Mama's point of view. I also agree that there's too much editorialising in the description of Dee, i.e. "Dee is selfish" "Dee just wants to follow the latest trends." I don't need to be told that Dee is selfish because it's obvious enough (she tries to claim her own sister's wedding presents); however, if she were shy and submissive like Maggie, she would never have escaped the traditional family poverty. As for following the latest trend--what Walker is critiquing, I think, is not Dee's search for an African identity (Walker did that herself) but the way she rejects her own family traditions in favor of this new identity. From the mother's point of view, why should someone who rejects her grandmother's name be given her grandmother's quilts?

Can you show me where the author says it is, "Mama's bitch ass story," please? Doesn't seem like she would use this language. Lwarn1 (talk) 17:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC) [reply]

BTW--since Dee apparently regarded her mother's home as a prison, dancing around in its ashes seems appropriate enough, metaphorically speaking. After all, this is fiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.246.101 (talk) 22:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Strongly agree with both of you. In particular, I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was just following a trend. 141.195.136.90 (talk) 06:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Agreed, but I don't see anything in the story to support the idea that Dee was NOT just following a trend.

Other Charachters
what should we put in reference for the other charachters like Hakim-a-barber?--75.72.25.219 (talk) 05:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What about Dee's companion? I believe there should be a description of him to contrast Maggie's future husband, adding to the differences between the two sisters. 69.88.187.2 (talk) 13:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)EMFP[reply]
bdfg bg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.133.60.104 (talk) 23:45, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would be helpful to mention Maggie's severe burns since they contribute to much of her reserved behavior. Pat otoole (talk) 16:39, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (Little to no plagiarism. I did however see many other sites fork information from Wikipedia with the correct mirroring info though.) --GuyHimGuy (talk) 02:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 <b>Mama's Story<b><br>
 It is important to remember that this is Mama's bitch ass story told from Mama's point of view.  I also agree that there's too much editorialising in the description of Dee, i.e. "Dee is selfish"  "Dee just wants to follow the latest trends."  I don't need to be told that Dee is selfish because it's obvious enough (she tries to claim her own sister's wedding presents); however, if she were shy and submissive like Maggie, she would never have escaped the traditional family poverty.  As for following the latest trend--what Walker is critiquing, I think, is not Dee's search for an African identity (Walker did that herself) but the way she rejects her own family traditions in favor of this new identity.  From the mother's point of view, why should someone who rejects her grandmother's name be given her grandmother's quilts?
+Can you show me where the author says it is, "Mama's bitch ass story," please? Doesn't seem like she would use this language. [[User:Lwarn1|Lwarn1]] ([[User talk:Lwarn1|talk]]) 17:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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