Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Țofei (2nd nomination)

Adrian Țofei

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This was just soft-deleted, then restored. It's pretty obvious the IP behind the article is Țofei himself, a relentless self-promoter based on the number of articles where he's seeded this link. The fact, though, is that at present, his sole claim to notability rests on having directed a single film (itself of uncertain notability); that really doesn't appear enough to satisfy WP:BIO.

Pinging @Somedifferentstuff:, who authored the first nomination. - Biruitorul ^Talk 15:02, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Keep. The movie's notability hasn't been disputed so far, only Țofei's page. But since he did almost everything on that movie - directing, writing, producing, acting, cinematography, editing, production design, casting, production management, sound, sound editing, color, special effects etc. and a lot of critics praised this achievement (it is actually Romania's first 100% indie/guerrilla feature film), I believe this is also proof of Țofei's notability. I was fascinated myself by the achievement, which is why I tried to contribute as much as possible to both the movie's page and Țofei's page and tag them whenever I saw them mentioned elsewhere. It's odd that this behavior is interpreted as a form of abuse or self-promotion. It is not. I am still searching for more info and references to add to Țofei's page in support of his notability, please don't delete it again. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 16:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Comment. I've just checked Biruitorul's contributions and looks like he even deleted any mention of Be My Cat: A Film for Anne in the article Cinema of Romania, although the movie is Romania's first found footage horror movie and the first Romanian horror movie to receive international recognition. I've restored that, but all his efforts to remove the movie or the movie's director from Wikipedia look suspicious. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 17:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

• • Yes, I removed it per WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTADVERTISING, and I'll likely remove it again once this discussion closes and you fade away from the project, which you probably will, given that your single purpose here is to promote Țofei and his film. - Biruitorul ^Talk 18:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
    • My single purpose here is to contribute objectively to things that I feel passionate about. Please do not manipulate the discussion, I never said that my single purpose is to promote Țofei and his film, I said that I am fascinated by the achievement. There is no conflict of interest in contributing to things that you feel passionate about. And I also contributed to other pages as well, unrelated to Țofei or his movie. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
      • Untrue: whether as 88.237.199.171, 86.120.250.221 or 86.120.254.110, all your contributions deal with Țofei and his little movie. - Biruitorul ^Talk 19:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Pinging @Juliancolton:, to whom I addressed the undelete request the first time Adrian Țofei was softdeleted. I explained to him in detail on User talk:Juliancolton why Țofei is notable and he restored the page. I need some help here, the second attempt to soft-delete seems strange, to say at least, given all the circumstances and the fact that the user who proposed it went to delete even unquestionable info about Țofei's movie from another page (see the comment above). 86.120.254.110 (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

• • There's nothing "strange" about a renomination under such circumstances. If anything is strange, it's that you haven't disclosed your apparent conflict of interest. - Biruitorul ^Talk 18:09, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
    • I cannot have any conflict of interests about Be My Cat being mentioned on Cinema of Romania. I didn't add that paragraph, I've just expanded it. And some minutes ago I actually deleted two festivals because they are not relevant for the movie's international recognition. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
• I've just checked Biruitorul's page again and saw this in his "About me" section: "This user is a patriot who often veers into deranged right-wing nationalism." He is a Romanian, so it's possible that he deleted any mention of Be My Cat: A Film for Anne from Cinema of Romania because the movie is not spoken in Romanian and it's addressed to a Hollywood celebrity, so it's not Romanian enough in his views. If this is true, it makes him biased towards anything related to the production. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 18:41, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Sorry, you're way off: I'm actually a filmmaker myself, and Țofei is a rival. My aim is to minimize mention of him throughout the Internet, and hopefully wreck his reputation in the process.
  • As for who added that paragraph: another single-purpose IP. Whether or not that was you remains an open question. Registering an account helps dispel these sorts of doubts. - Biruitorul ^Talk 19:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
    • Yes, I will consider registering an account from now on to remove any suspicion of single purpose. I contributed to a lot of other pages, but I don't have a static IP, it changes, so it's impossible for me to prove anything. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 19:15, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

• Comment - it would be helpful if 86.120.254.110 could stop sniping at me and actually stick to the topic at hand, which is whether the subject under discussion is indeed notable. - Biruitorul ^Talk 19:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Agreed. 86.120.254.110 (talk) 19:15, 2 May 2017 (UTC)