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==March 2017==
==March 2017==
[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance|maintenance templates]] from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Alder Hey organs scandal]], without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tdel2 --> [[User:Dl2000|Dl2000]] ([[User talk:Dl2000|talk]]) 23:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not remove [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance|maintenance templates]] from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to [[:Alder Hey organs scandal]], without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-tdel2 --> [[User:Dl2000|Dl2000]] ([[User talk:Dl2000|talk]]) 23:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The issue is that you, and especially your human intuition, is based on a perspective of the world which is incomplete and inaccurate. That's why your intuition rebels, not because QM is wrong, but because you are a machine which approximates reality in a narrow set of conditions of size, time scale, and the like. When one does that, one introduces all sorts of questions which aren't just wrong, they are not even wrong. The classic example is the question "What does an electron look like?" Seems like a simple question, until you realize that it's a nonsensical question. Here's why: What does it mean to "look" at something? It means to detect the light bouncing off of it. When I look at a wall, I see the particular way light bounces off of the wall. My eyes detect those photons, my brain constructs a working image of that wall, etc. The issue is, that process makes no sense if you replace the word "wall" with the word "electron". Electrons interact with light in a very different way than does a wall, so when someone asks "What does an electron look like", it isn't an answerable question. In the exact same way, other concepts we deal with in the world on size scales and time scales our brains work at don't make any sense at the scale of an electron. Instead, we have to deal with the electron on its own terms and not put our human terms on it. And that's what "Shut up and calculate" means. What does science do fundamentally? What it does is create working models and theories so we can make predictive statements about the way the world works. We have those working models for an electron. It's called quantum mechanics. Those models don't have nice pictures that make ANY sense in the big world, but that's fine. Not every good model needs a picture I can draw with a crayon. So, throw your intuition away. It does you no good here, because the way you have intuition is through the way your senses interact with your brain, what's called qualia. Qualia aren't useful to explain quantum mechanics. Equations are. Shut up and calculate. --Jayron32 19:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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Please read the second citation: We present the case of a 39-year-old male who died with three significant and separate shotgun wounds. During the investigation, the possibility of murder was considered, but reconstruction of the case and post-mortem findings led to a coronial conclusion that the death was a suicide, accounted for by the type of weapon used and the stamina of the deceased. Jim1138 (talk) 02:21, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

what a bunch of unsubstantiated B.S.....64.170.21.194 (talk) 06:22, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

March 2017

Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Alder Hey organs scandal, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 23:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that you, and especially your human intuition, is based on a perspective of the world which is incomplete and inaccurate. That's why your intuition rebels, not because QM is wrong, but because you are a machine which approximates reality in a narrow set of conditions of size, time scale, and the like. When one does that, one introduces all sorts of questions which aren't just wrong, they are not even wrong. The classic example is the question "What does an electron look like?" Seems like a simple question, until you realize that it's a nonsensical question. Here's why: What does it mean to "look" at something? It means to detect the light bouncing off of it. When I look at a wall, I see the particular way light bounces off of the wall. My eyes detect those photons, my brain constructs a working image of that wall, etc. The issue is, that process makes no sense if you replace the word "wall" with the word "electron". Electrons interact with light in a very different way than does a wall, so when someone asks "What does an electron look like", it isn't an answerable question. In the exact same way, other concepts we deal with in the world on size scales and time scales our brains work at don't make any sense at the scale of an electron. Instead, we have to deal with the electron on its own terms and not put our human terms on it. And that's what "Shut up and calculate" means. What does science do fundamentally? What it does is create working models and theories so we can make predictive statements about the way the world works. We have those working models for an electron. It's called quantum mechanics. Those models don't have nice pictures that make ANY sense in the big world, but that's fine. Not every good model needs a picture I can draw with a crayon. So, throw your intuition away. It does you no good here, because the way you have intuition is through the way your senses interact with your brain, what's called qualia. Qualia aren't useful to explain quantum mechanics. Equations are. Shut up and calculate. --Jayron32 19:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)