User talk:Heydan Seegil

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You may find the Wikipedia policy pages on original research and conflict of interest informative, along with the BRD page on the Bold, Revert, Discuss process. Now is the time to discuss whether your innovative harmonic technique fits on Wikipefia, at the Talk:Guitar harmonics page. Regards, Just plain Bill (talk) 11:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

On original research, recordings of the harmonic exist which are verifiable. So just because you don't want to believe that it doesn't exist as a harmonic doesn't mean it doesn't especially when there is a repeatable process and recorded evidence. Furthermore the recordings were published and contain a copy write, so literally no clue what more proof you'd need. Conflict of interest, ok then you post it. Attempting to bar knowledge from reaching the masses because you believe something doesn't exist, even when there is both verifiable evidence and a process to reproduce. I understand that it is strongly not recommended, but I'd rather people knew about the musical effect and how to reproduce it then not. Wiki is after all an educational resource. You can pull it again, but I suggest actually trying it for yourself first as again it is repeatable. If you need I better explanation of what exactly is going on I'll provide one but its a thing, it exists, there is proof, and anyone can do it. Now then if you believe someone else discovered it first then that is another story and I suggest that you update the entry with proof, their name, and the name that it was provided. However to this date and with degree in musicology I have yet to find another source. heydanseegilHeydan Seegil (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

The thing about original research is that it doesn’t fly on Wikipedia. Has anyone other than yourself written about this technique? It needs to be published in a reliable source if this is going to stay in the encyclopedia. Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. I have no doubt that you can excite sympathetic vibrations in strings beside the one being plucked; I hear similar things all the time. It’s just that Wikipedia is not for publishing that kind of stuff, until it gets noticed and written up where the rest of us can see it, and count on the reporting being reliable. Just plain Bill (talk) 17:31, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

The thing is though is that it does not say that at all it only says it is not recommended. As for the Harmonic itself it is cited. Just because you choose to ignore facts does not mean they do not exist. Again there is a repeatable process and proof cited. You're literally acting like a child that will not accept the facts. This exists, it has been recorded, and it can be again. It is a reliable technique that is up there were everyone can reproduce it. If you believe that my edit is false and that someone else discovered it then you need to edit it with that rather than deleting it because you refuse to accept the facts. Please desist from attempting to cover up knowledge and spread ignorance. Heydan Seegil (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

I should also mention that because it is cited that if you personally have an issue with me citing it. Then you are more than welcome to re-add the entry as is with the reference under your own name so that you may feel comfortable with the facts. So you know if you feel this strongly then you could always repost it as the facts still stand, because it does exist and it has been written up and recorded even though in your delusion you refuse to accept it. I figure that way you can feel more comfortable about it.