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: {{replyto|Kartu}} Hi Kartu. First up, we should definitely not censor her statements - [[WP:CENSOR|Wikipedia is not censored]]. But we do have to be very careful to make sure that [[WP:BLP|any controversial statements relating to a living person are properly sourced and referenced]]. Also we need to ensure that our articles read well, so inserting a controversial statement randomly into an article is not constructive. By all means, write a properly sourced, separate paragraph or section - but please take the time to make sure it is well researched, properly referenced, doesn't give [[WP:WEIGHT|undue weight]] to the controversy and the article flows well and maintains a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. Hope that helps. [[User:Waggers|<b style="color:#98F">W</b><b style="color:#97E">a</b><b style="color:#86D">g</b><b style="color:#75C">ge</b><b style="color:#83C">r</b><b style="color:#728">s</b>]][[User talk:Waggers|<small style="color:#080">''TALK''</small>]] 08:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC) |
: {{replyto|Kartu}} Hi Kartu. First up, we should definitely not censor her statements - [[WP:CENSOR|Wikipedia is not censored]]. But we do have to be very careful to make sure that [[WP:BLP|any controversial statements relating to a living person are properly sourced and referenced]]. Also we need to ensure that our articles read well, so inserting a controversial statement randomly into an article is not constructive. By all means, write a properly sourced, separate paragraph or section - but please take the time to make sure it is well researched, properly referenced, doesn't give [[WP:WEIGHT|undue weight]] to the controversy and the article flows well and maintains a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. Hope that helps. [[User:Waggers|<b style="color:#98F">W</b><b style="color:#97E">a</b><b style="color:#86D">g</b><b style="color:#75C">ge</b><b style="color:#83C">r</b><b style="color:#728">s</b>]][[User talk:Waggers|<small style="color:#080">''TALK''</small>]] 08:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the quick reply, Waggers. Based on it I'm still confused what the issue actually is, as you mention several: |
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* Is it "not properly sourced" (edit history shows that that has been addressed already) |
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* Does not suggestion to reduce population of one gender to 10% not important enough, to be included in summary? |
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* This part is clearly not neutral POV: "Gearhart does not base this radical proposal on the idea that men are innately violent or oppressive", we don't know, what she is basing it on, "male-bonding" being particularly "dangerous", is not mutually exclusive with men being "innately violent or oppressive". |
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- Hi Waggers, it would be great if you have a chance to take a look at the new editors I recommended to you. Thank you! I would also help invite some new members, but they are not the ones on this list. Bobo.03 (talk) 20:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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Hiding quotes by Sally Miller Gearhart
Could you please elaborate why we should censor out her controversial statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kartu (talk • contribs) 08:25, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Kartu: Hi Kartu. First up, we should definitely not censor her statements - Wikipedia is not censored. But we do have to be very careful to make sure that any controversial statements relating to a living person are properly sourced and referenced. Also we need to ensure that our articles read well, so inserting a controversial statement randomly into an article is not constructive. By all means, write a properly sourced, separate paragraph or section - but please take the time to make sure it is well researched, properly referenced, doesn't give undue weight to the controversy and the article flows well and maintains a neutral point of view. Hope that helps. WaggersTALK 08:30, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply, Waggers. Based on it I'm still confused what the issue actually is, as you mention several: * Is it "not properly sourced" (edit history shows that that has been addressed already) * Does not suggestion to reduce population of one gender to 10% not important enough, to be included in summary? * This part is clearly not neutral POV: "Gearhart does not base this radical proposal on the idea that men are innately violent or oppressive", we don't know, what she is basing it on, "male-bonding" being particularly "dangerous", is not mutually exclusive with men being "innately violent or oppressive".