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Removed stub classification, this article could use more expansion, but is not likely to be found in torture-stubs. Xaosflux 05:23, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Buried alive in the 1990s?

Patients in the 1990s have been documented as getting accidentally bagged, trapped in a steel box, or sent to the morgue.

Is that accurate? Or should that be the 1790s or 1890s?

--Syonyk 2006 Oct 23

2-4 minutes?

if buried without a coffeen ,death is imminant. are those 2-4 minutes of holding on'es breath?--Procrastinating@^talk2me 08:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pro Wrestling

Should the article mention the pro wrestling match type called "Buried Alive" match in the Pop Culture section?

Requested move

Live burial → Being buried alive … Rationale: compromise between Live burial and Burial alive. Ewlyahoocom 09:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This page currently named Burial Alive, which I'd vote to keep as Burial alive ({{capitalmove}} added above). Live burial suggests to me an article about "the live reporting of a burial"; Being buried alive is Burial alive in a passive voice...? Regards, David Kernow 19:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Live burial. Dr Zak 19:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This page was originally located at Burial alive which sounded a little strange to me, I assumed it was the nounification of "buried alive". So I moved this page to Live burial. ("Living burial" was another option, but I felt there might be some ambiguity on "living" as an adjective or a noun.) However, this has generated a complaint. "Buried alive" is the most common phrase, but its nounifiction is not obvious. So perhaps the compromise solution is to move this page to Being buried alive.

The google count may suggest differently because it yields (probably in vast majority) sentence fragments rather then just relevant captions, but our readers most likely expect page names to conform to the tradition in lexicographical works to use substantives whenever possible. The less likely case anyone actually searchs for the verbal form is best catered for by a redirect- I just made one, 'problem' solved, let's work on content instead. Fastifex 12:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like Live burial more than the proposed title, as it's smoother and more grammatical. If you want to move it to something else, Premature burial might be as good as anything. It corresponds to the title of a fairly famous story on the subject by Poe (The Premature Burial), and it's in pretty widespread usage. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 21:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google counts (uncorrected for WikiPedia linkbacks, band names, other uses, etc.)

about 13,500 for "burial alive"
about 23,400 for "live burial"
about 588 for "living burial" (cf. about 665,000 for "living sacrifice")
about 3,360,000 for "buried alive"
- about 197,000 for "being buried alive" -Up for this one Procrastinating@^talk2me 20:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- about 114,000 for "be buried alive"
- about 73,700 for "was buried alive"

Moved to "premature burial", which gets 180,000 hits, too. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 07:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Premature burial doesn't cover the method of execution, sorry! Dr Zak 19:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Live burial and being buried alive is proper English. Burial alive isn't. Move it where you want, preferably to "live burial", which is a noun, but get rid of what isn't English! Dr Zak 19:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which "proper English" do you have in mind...? Curious, David Kernow 20:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

British English. Myself speaking American sounds just silly. (And I voted above for "live burial" if that is what you mean.) Dr Zak 01:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks... I'd certainly prefer "Live burial" to "Being buried alive". I suppose I prefer the emphasis given to "burial" by making it the first word. Yours, David 03:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Both [live burial and burial alive] seem to be correct. However, "Live burial", is somewhat ambiguous. What are we burying? Something that is alive? Something that has electrical current? Something that may explode? Or are we burying something as it happens (live)? Mikesc86 13:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

moving this article

Let us vote the wiki way. I am for "being buried alive" or "premature burial". Procrastinating@^talk2me 23:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since it has been about 2 weeks since the original request to no avail. I'm implementing it by moving it to-->Being buried alive.

I oppose the move to Being buried alive; we don't start articles with "Being". Ral315 (talk) 15:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

y'all can't be serious? article titles should be in noun (or adj + noun) form whenever possible, "live burial" is a perfectly good title. Appleby 19:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Live burial" seems like by far the best title, "being buried alive" is not an encyclopedic title. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've now moved the article back to "live burial", as per Wikipedia:naming conventions. As shown above, it's the most common noun phrase for this subject, and thus satisfies both the "use nouns" and "common usage" principles ("premature burial" would have won were it not inappropriate for some meanings of this term). Wikipedia:voting is evil, but if we were to be holding a vote, I'd also note that it appears to be the single most popular option in the discussion above. -- The Anome 08:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although "premature burial" may hold some inaccuracies, it is still best because those who chose to be buried prematurally still underwent a "premature burial". although voting is evil, I oppose the cuurent name nad opt for the premature one.

and because this article has beem moved and removed more than 6 times now...LET US VOTE.--Procrastinating@^talk2me 10:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Premature burial
- Procrastinating@^talk2me 10:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 13:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The result of the last WP:RM was to move it to premature burial. I'll redo that move and then move-lock the page, full stop. —Nightstallion (?) 13:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Law & Order Reference

The Law and Order reference is completely pointless. Since the series has been running so long and generated so many spin-offs, it's highly unlikely that anyone would reconize the criminal. Somebody needs to find that episode's name. BioTube 02:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 Removed stub classification, this article could use more expansion, but is not likely to be found in torture-stubs. [[User:Xaosflux|Xaosflux]] 05:23, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
+==Buried alive in the 1990s?==
+Patients in the 1990s have been documented as getting accidentally bagged, trapped in a steel box, or sent to the morgue.
+Is that accurate?  Or should that be the 1790s or 1890s?
+--Syonyk 2006 Oct 23
 == 2-4 minutes? ==