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:: Thanks for talking. The UPI article is outdated not only because of the negative slant it takes but also because the Temple no longer hands out fliers at concerts and usually doesn't hold Communions for non-members anymore. They are reachable through the website and email and focus on spreadig of their beliefs. It is only when someone shows a belief and understanding in what the Temple is about that they consider meeting with someone. And although the mention in the TIHKAL book seems just in passing - among those who are in the "Psychedelic" world, it is of much more importance than the UPI ref.
:: Thanks for talking. The UPI article is outdated not only because of the negative slant it takes but also because the Temple no longer hands out fliers at concerts and usually doesn't hold Communions for non-members anymore. They are reachable through the website and email and focus on spreadig of their beliefs. It is only when someone shows a belief and understanding in what the Temple is about that they consider meeting with someone. And although the mention in the TIHKAL book seems just in passing - among those who are in the "Psychedelic" world, it is of much more importance than the UPI ref.


Note that Birnbaum is not mentioned in the UPI article, nor in the article by Peter Gorman, Ewho was Executive Editor of High Times magazine at the time when he visited the Temple in 1989 - 9 years after the founding in 1980 of the Temple.
Note that Birnbaum is not mentioned in the UPI article, nor in the article by Peter Gorman, who was Executive Editor of High Times magazine at the time when he visited the Temple in 1989 - 9 years after the founding in 1980 of the Temple.


Thanks again for your civility. I noticed the "Article Summary" after my last posting.[[User:Somaeye|Somaeye]] ([[User talk:Somaeye|talk]]) 11:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks again for your civility. I noticed the "Article Summary" after my last posting.[[User:Somaeye|Somaeye]] ([[User talk:Somaeye|talk]]) 11:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 11:11, 13 May 2018

Someone has been changing this page and putting false information about the Temple. The Temple does NOT include cocaine as a part of the Flesh of God. Rather, it is a part of the darkness (satan) to them. Also, Harvey Finn is NOT associated with the Temple in any way. And the concept that the Temple is in Spearwood is interesting since Spearwood is an Acacia Tree that may contain DMT, but that is NOT the physical location of the Temple. Somaeye (talk) 01:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The UPI ref is outdated. It reflects attitudes before the legalization of Marijuana and before court decisions in favor of other churches that were somewhat similar to the Temple such as Santo Daime and UDV.

The Native American Church, from which the Temple started, was formed by 6 people - not 1.Somaeye (talk) 13:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing things here on the talk page (it would also help if you were to use the Edit Summary field when making changes, so that your changes don't look arbitrary.)
Would there be any objection to saying that the founders included Birnbaum?
The UPI reference was being used for the statement on the eucharist, which it supports. It's also a very useful reference to have in here, because it is the only easily-verifiable one that confers a reasonable degree of notability (not in itself enough to meet the notability guidelines, but a good step toward that.) The other ones that can be read online seem to have just passing mentions of theTemple. If it must be used for historic material, that's fine, this article should not just reflect the Temple's current status but also its history. --Nat Gertler (talk) 14:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for talking. The UPI article is outdated not only because of the negative slant it takes but also because the Temple no longer hands out fliers at concerts and usually doesn't hold Communions for non-members anymore. They are reachable through the website and email and focus on spreadig of their beliefs. It is only when someone shows a belief and understanding in what the Temple is about that they consider meeting with someone. And although the mention in the TIHKAL book seems just in passing - among those who are in the "Psychedelic" world, it is of much more importance than the UPI ref.

Note that Birnbaum is not mentioned in the UPI article, nor in the article by Peter Gorman, who was Executive Editor of High Times magazine at the time when he visited the Temple in 1989 - 9 years after the founding in 1980 of the Temple.

Thanks again for your civility. I noticed the "Article Summary" after my last posting.Somaeye (talk) 11:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]