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Frank Rouas

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Promotion of a company. Paid Users SaiLeeKom (talk) 08:50, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

• I'm trying to understand why my articles are being nominated for speedy deletion? I'm a huge fan of Michael Jackson. Part of what I do is find everything important revolving around him making sure his millions of fans stay knowledgeable of Mr. Jackson as he is one of the most popular public figures of all time. I have no connection to the Jackson Family, Frank Rouas, or anyone listed in any of my articles. This is important news about Michael Jackon's cologne which has been hugely successful product and company. Frank Rouas played a huge role not only in Michael's life but the Jackson as well as the fragrance world with his contribution to the king of pops only fragrances ever created. This is huge and important. Once again I am not associated with anyone in this article. Just a fan of the subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevengeOfTheRobots (talk • contribs) 09:00, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, I would like to add that SaiLeKom is attempting to say that I have been paid to create such articles which are entirely untrue. Michael Jackson, The Jacksons, and their business partners are notable people. This is public information and is backed up by credible sources. I have do not know anyone and this is an untrue accusation and flat out lie.— Preceding unsigned comment added by RevengeOfTheRobots (talk • contribs)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

• Delete. Promoting a company using the name of the great Michael Jackson and his family Jackson family. Resources are also weak and not justified the subject.SaiLeeKom (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

• Delete blatantly promotional article, could have been speedy deleted as spam, but it was a good idea to bring this and JRP Collection Paris on grounds of notability. No indication of notability per WP:BIO or WP:GNG, and no significant coverage online in WP:RS, just passing mentions in connection with his company's notable customers, and WP: Notability is not inherited. See also speedy deletions of Franck Julian Rouas and Franck Rouas, and WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Charliee123/Archive. The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:39, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

• Keep.Are you kidding me? Articles are from legitimate sources. Yahoo, Reuters for example so saying resources are weak when Reuters and Yahoo are worthy sources doesn't make sense. Once again this qualifies as a stub page. All the sources are notable. But the true fact is the reason why it's been even considered are based upon accusation that this has been paid for, which in fact has not. No payments nothing. Stick with the reasons. Also, who is Charleen123. Once again you're pointing out pure assumptions. Nothing based on facts. Only facts are in the references I created for this Stub article as a fan of Jackson and his perfumer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevengeOfTheRobots (talk • contribs) 10:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The nominator can be forgiven for thinking that there's a WP:Conflict of interest here, especially as you've uploaded his accompanying posed portrait File:Frank_Rouas.png as your own work, and declared yourself to be the copyright holder.

Promotional tone can be fixed, and that on its own isn't a reason to delete. The real problem here is notability. Yes, there are several reliable sources cited, but they only mention him in connection with his company, and there's nothing to indicate that he's notable enough outside of it for a separate article. All owners of notable companies aren't necessarily notable themselves, and it's not that unusual for articles on CEOs of notable companies to be deleted. What's needed is significant coverage of Rouas himself from the reliable sources. You can read about what this means in WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Notability is not the issue. There are 11 or 12 references made by reputable magazines about the guy. That's not the real problem. The only issue is from SaiLeeKom's whose only reason he stated for tampering with my article was completely based on his false accusations that I'm connected in somehow with the Jackson's or their employees. That's the only reason why I'm even going through this. It's all because I didn't upload a photo right? Come on... I don't have that much experience uploading photos. That was an honest mistake which I can correct by reuploading the photo under copy write. The dude is acting like I'm sitting here next to Janet, Tito, Latoya, Jermaine and Frank and I'm writing it with them..lol. Maybe I'm typing this with the glitter glove as well if he believes that. Maybe I'll moonwalk my ass back home from Never Never Land in the process. This is ridiculous.