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==Lifelong Post-Vasectomy Pain== |
==Lifelong Post-Vasectomy Pain== |
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The most significant complication of vasectomy is a lifetime of severe continous post-vasectomy testicular and epididymal pain. As a sufferer myself, I know from experience that such pain destroys quality of life to the extent that few other sicknesses can compare. The fact that a procedure, which is advertized to be safe and simple, has a rate of chronic and severe long-term pain in between 5-30% of men (depending on the severity of pain that qualifies for the particular study)), needs to be explained in detail in any article with the goal of elucidating the truth rather than advocating for a cause. Doctors often minimize this complication and sometimes, as in my case, they don't even tell their patients. If patients knew the truth, most, certainly myself included, would not have had vasectomies and this would cut deep into the pocketbooks of some urologists, hence the deception. Wikipedia is a place for truth, not for convenient, money-making "truths" that benefit only urologists and leave innocent people in lifetimes of severe, unbearable pain. Vasectomy is an unnatural procedure and the fact that some men seem to have no pain from it is the fact that should be surprising. Since Wikipedia is designed to cover the truth without the filter of powerful, deceptive, money-grubbing people, we need to create a section that outlines clearly the incidence and severity of post-vasectomy pain. [[User:LukeTH|luketh]] |
The most significant complication of vasectomy is a lifetime of severe continous post-vasectomy testicular and epididymal pain. As a sufferer myself, I know from experience that such pain destroys quality of life to the extent that few other sicknesses can compare. The fact that a procedure, which is advertized to be safe and simple, has a rate of chronic and severe long-term pain in between 5-30% of men (depending on the severity of pain that qualifies for the particular study)), needs to be explained in detail in any article with the goal of elucidating the truth rather than advocating for a cause. Doctors often minimize this complication and sometimes, as in my case, they don't even tell their patients. If patients knew the truth, most, certainly myself included, would not have had vasectomies and this would cut deep into the pocketbooks of some urologists, hence the deception. Wikipedia is a place for truth, not for convenient, money-making "truths" that benefit only urologists and leave innocent people in lifetimes of severe, unbearable pain. Vasectomy is an unnatural procedure and the fact that some men seem to have no pain from it is the fact that should be surprising. Since Wikipedia is designed to cover the truth without the filter of powerful, deceptive, money-grubbing people, we need to create a section that outlines clearly the incidence and severity of post-vasectomy pain. [[User:LukeTH|luketh]] |
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==Discussion on origins of article== |
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Shouldn't this have its own article? --[[User:Tothebarricades.tk|Tothebarricades]] July 1, 2005 05:55 (UTC) |
Shouldn't this have its own article? --[[User:Tothebarricades.tk|Tothebarricades]] July 1, 2005 05:55 (UTC) |
Revision as of 02:48, 5 December 2006
Lifelong Post-Vasectomy Pain
The most significant complication of vasectomy is a lifetime of severe continous post-vasectomy testicular and epididymal pain. As a sufferer myself, I know from experience that such pain destroys quality of life to the extent that few other sicknesses can compare. The fact that a procedure, which is advertized to be safe and simple, has a rate of chronic and severe long-term pain in between 5-30% of men (depending on the severity of pain that qualifies for the particular study)), needs to be explained in detail in any article with the goal of elucidating the truth rather than advocating for a cause. Doctors often minimize this complication and sometimes, as in my case, they don't even tell their patients. If patients knew the truth, most, certainly myself included, would not have had vasectomies and this would cut deep into the pocketbooks of some urologists, hence the deception. Wikipedia is a place for truth, not for convenient, money-making "truths" that benefit only urologists and leave innocent people in lifetimes of severe, unbearable pain. Vasectomy is an unnatural procedure and the fact that some men seem to have no pain from it is the fact that should be surprising. Since Wikipedia is designed to cover the truth without the filter of powerful, deceptive, money-grubbing people, we need to create a section that outlines clearly the incidence and severity of post-vasectomy pain. luketh
Discussion on origins of article
Shouldn't this have its own article? --Tothebarricades July 1, 2005 05:55 (UTC)
- I agree. The article history suggests this has never been anything but a redirect. – drw25 (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Since it does now, I adjusted Defrentectomy to redirect here instead of Sterlization Kuronue 23:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Psychological effects
There should surely be some data on this? Rich Farmbrough 16:07 16 July 2006 (GMT).
How long must a man wait after vasectomy before it's safe for him to have sex without getting anyone pregnant? It would be nice to add that to the article.
- There is no answer to that question as such. A semen sample is tested shortly after the operation and again a few months later. Only fater the second has tested clear is it safe to rely on the vasectomy. Unfortunately, from memory, I can't say what the time periods are, but if someone else knows this information should be added. Emeraude 15:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- One month after the operation is when the first sample is tested, two months for the second. It's been 3 weeks now since I 'supplied' the second sample and I've not heard anything yet.80.42.170.0 22:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)Thinker
Vasectomy vs. Tubal ligation
What is the point "stronger motivation for sterilization in the man" supposed to mean? And why wouldn't the same for a woman be a reason for tubal ligation? I actually don't get that point. 69.124.143.230 04:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- This is basically a list of why people choose vasectomy over tubal ligation. One reason would be that because the man in question feels more strongly about sterilization than the woman. The statement is not intended to mean that men in general are more strongly motivated to be sterilized than women are. Maybe this should be reworded for clarity. --Slashme 10:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- I get the general idea, I'm just asking if this article is making some claim that couples, in general, prefer to choose vasectomies over tubal ligations because of some "preference" for sterilizing the male? I mean isn't that the whole idea of the list in the first place -- what determines "stronger motivation" for sterilization in the man? It's kind of like listing the topic of the list itself as one of its own points, you know what I mean? (or am I just assuming wildly as I am oft to do?) 69.124.143.230 00:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Recovery
people who had a vasectomy should follow the doctors rules if they don't want to do this then they shouldn't have one
"For the next 24-72 hours, the patient should remain at home, sitting or lying for most of the time."
What? Is this for wimps? Everyone I know (and myself) had the op late afternoon and was at work the next day, albeit taking things gently, especially avoiding sudden movements when sitting or standing. There are clinics who advertise to a vasectomy during the lunch break....
Some clarification please. Emeraude 15:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Having had the operation myself just 3 months ago the "remain at home, sitting or lying for most of the time." is completely justified. After the operation the patient may feel fine after half a day (as you and your acquaintances did), however swelling may occur(as it did in me) and the feeling is not unlike the one you get after having been kicked in the testicles, the only difference being it can last for about a week. I had mine done on a Monday and wasn't capable of working properly until the following Monday when the swelling had gone down and I was then (as you were) taking things very gently.80.42.170.0 22:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)Thinker