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Taha Heydari

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his article was deleted recently on fawiki, I did research on his and I didn't see enough sources about him, fails GNG Mardetanha (talk) 07:41, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I believe that the 5 sources in the Reference section of the original article should be sufficient for an article of this type. Additionally any show at a permanent well known gallery should serve as additional proof of notability. Slipandslide (talk) 12:59, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

@Slipandslide: an art show at a "well known gallery" is irrelevant to GNG. Jooojay (talk) 07:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jooojay:Art shows at well known galleries, not owned or controlled by the artist should always be considered when applying GNG to artists. To state otherwise is to ignore common sense.Slipandslide (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I suppose that makes sense if its a notable gallery, or if your being paid for the article creation. Jooojay (talk) 20:30, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Where you exhibit is not specifically mentioned in WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST, which only mentions shows at siginficant venues like the Venice Biennale. You could show at lots of well-known galleries and never get a review, and thus not be notable as there would be no coverage.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I see many new citations were added today to this article, however they don't seem like they are reliable sources (see WP:RS). A lot of gallery PR publications. Jooojay (talk) 21:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jooojay:Art Daily and BMore Art can hardly be described as gallery PR publications.Slipandslide (talk) 21:50, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Bmore is not a national publication, and the ArtDaily link appears to be an ad for the "Haines Gallery". The majority of your new edits today are not done with inline citations and as of now appears to be original research, I don't see you demonstrating any notability or strengthening your argument yet. Jooojay (talk) 22:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete - doesn't meet GNG. Jooojay (talk) 07:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete WP:ARTIST fail on all counts. GNG fail as well, since the coverage found is too sparse.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:44, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@ThatMontrealIP:I don't think you can claim that here when there are seven distinct citations.Slipandslide (talk) 21:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@Slipandslide: Ohhhhhhhhhh, I see. Please then describe which part of the special notability guideline WP:ARTIST is met by this artist? Looking forward to your answer and learning something new, as there is always time for learning!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 21:52, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment I've tagged the article as undisclosed paid editing, since Slipandslide just told me this is a paid editing gig, but I do not see it mentioned on this AFD page, nor on the article talk page or on their user page.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@ThatMontrealIP:I also told you that I had disclosed the contribution on my User Talk page by adding the required template there. My understanding from Paid-contribution_disclosure is that the disclosure may be made in any of 3 places including the User|Talk page. Therefore I will ask you to remove that template.Slipandslide (talk) 00:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

It makes sense that it was made by a paid editor. The template should stay on the article for now, and the article (if it's not deleted) needs deep clean up per WP:CONPOL. Also this maybe a COI situation, per WP:PAID.Jooojay (talk) 01:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@Slipandslide: please discuss the UPE issues on the article talk page, in the thread you have started there. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 01:35, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

• CommentI am the director of exhibitions at the Southeastern Center of Contemporary Art (SECCA). Many, now well known, artists have been featured in exhibitions at SECCA. Taha Heydari is one such artist. We feel that his work measures up to the other artists who have come before him and we see Heydari as a strong voice for for Iranian artists living in exile. KEEP Signed Clifford L. Dossel— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdossel (talk • contribs)

• Comment I am the former Curator of Contemporary Art at SECCA and the curator of the exhibition . Heydari is an innovative contemporary painter and his exhibition made a valuable contribution to the institution and was warmly received by the North Carolina community. Signed C. Fisher. 2601:193:8201:6F0:C1DB:5FED:D695:D52E (talk) 13:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC)2601:193:8201:6F0:C1DB:5FED:D695:D52E (talk) 13:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC)