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== Removing dubious mythology material ("Pricus" and Chronos) == |
== Removing dubious mythology material ("Pricus" and Chronos) == |
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I'm removing material from this article, and the equivalent at |
I'm removing material from this article, and the equivalent at [[Capricornus]]. The text in question was added to [[Capricornus]] a couple years ago [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Capricornus&diff=prev&oldid=846850647] and mostly copied over to [[sea goat]] when the article was made earlier this year. I suspect it to be unreliable for the following reasons: |
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*The sites linked don't look like particularly reliable sources, and don't cite any sources at all themselves. One of them [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-mythology.html] presents the story as a "lost legend" and a linked page [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-goat.html] refers to the story being "discovered in later writings," but with no specifics or sources. An earlier version of the page [https://web.archive.org/web/20101231141406/http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-mythology.html] attributes it to a text called the "Scriptures of Delphi" [https://web.archive.org/web/20101231140222/http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/scriptures-of-delphi.html]. I can find nothing that looks reliable about these scriptures, which also include a "Vampire Bible," and the current version of the Gods and Monsters page about them is more skeptical [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/scriptures-of-delphi.html]. |
*The sites linked don't look like particularly reliable sources, and don't cite any sources at all themselves. One of them [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-mythology.html] presents the story as a "lost legend" and a linked page [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-goat.html] refers to the story being "discovered in later writings," but with no specifics or sources. An earlier version of the page [https://web.archive.org/web/20101231141406/http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/capricorn-mythology.html] attributes it to a text called the "Scriptures of Delphi" [https://web.archive.org/web/20101231140222/http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/scriptures-of-delphi.html]. I can find nothing that looks reliable about these scriptures, which also include a "Vampire Bible," and the current version of the Gods and Monsters page about them is more skeptical [https://www.gods-and-monsters.com/scriptures-of-delphi.html]. |
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*I can't find any reference to a sea goat named "Pricus" on Google Books, except an encyclopedia of mythical creatures that appears quite recent [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MfGzCgAAQBAJ&dq=pricus&source=gbs_navlinks_s]. The name Pricus does appear elsewhere, but only as a human name or as part of a taxonomic name (and some OCR errors). |
*I can't find any reference to a sea goat named "Pricus" on Google Books, except an encyclopedia of mythical creatures that appears quite recent [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MfGzCgAAQBAJ&dq=pricus&source=gbs_navlinks_s]. The name Pricus does appear elsewhere, but only as a human name or as part of a taxonomic name (and some OCR errors). |
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Removing dubious mythology material ("Pricus" and Chronos)
I'm removing material from this article, and the equivalent at Capricornus. The text in question was added to Capricornus a couple years ago [1] and mostly copied over to sea goat when the article was made earlier this year. I suspect it to be unreliable for the following reasons:
- The sites linked don't look like particularly reliable sources, and don't cite any sources at all themselves. One of them [2] presents the story as a "lost legend" and a linked page [3] refers to the story being "discovered in later writings," but with no specifics or sources. An earlier version of the page [4] attributes it to a text called the "Scriptures of Delphi" [5]. I can find nothing that looks reliable about these scriptures, which also include a "Vampire Bible," and the current version of the Gods and Monsters page about them is more skeptical [6].
- I can't find any reference to a sea goat named "Pricus" on Google Books, except an encyclopedia of mythical creatures that appears quite recent [7]. The name Pricus does appear elsewhere, but only as a human name or as part of a taxonomic name (and some OCR errors).
- Nor can I find references to Chronos creating or fathering a sea goat.
- These studies of constellation myths discuss Capricorn in some detail but say nothing about "Pricus", Chronos (including variant spellings), time reversal, or a whole species of sea goats that became land goats [8] [9]
- The concept of "turning back time" seems very modern and unfitting to Greek mythology (though I admit this is largely my intuition and could be wrong, and I would welcome any corrections). I can't find a reference to Chronos having that specific power in myth, either.
I think it'd be wise to search through other Greek mythology-related pages, such as the topics mentioned here [10] for any other dubiously sourced material. And the same for vampire-related pages, possibly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.64.13 (talk) 20:41, 3 July 2020 (UTC)