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:::The point isn't that shungite ''actually'' does anything to 'nullify' 5G, nor that any of the 5G conspiracy is true. It was added because it has become a noteworthy event surrounding shungite. While the claim itself is patently absurd, the reason it is present is because people are ''making'' the claim. [[User:LonelyProgrammer|LonelyProgrammer]] ([[User talk:LonelyProgrammer|talk]]) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC) |
:::The point isn't that shungite ''actually'' does anything to 'nullify' 5G, nor that any of the 5G conspiracy is true. It was added because it has become a noteworthy event surrounding shungite. While the claim itself is patently absurd, the reason it is present is because people are ''making'' the claim. [[User:LonelyProgrammer|LonelyProgrammer]] ([[User talk:LonelyProgrammer|talk]]) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Additionally, Shungite has been a part of the healing crystal wellness scam for years now. <ref>https://hibiscusmooncrystalacademy.com/how-to-make-shungite-water/</ref> They've made unfounded claims about curing cancer and I really think there should be some mention of that these claims are unfounded. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LordoftheRaccoons|LordoftheRaccoons]] ([[User talk:LordoftheRaccoons#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LordoftheRaccoons|contribs]]) 14:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
:::Additionally, Shungite has been a part of the healing crystal wellness scam for years now. <ref>https://hibiscusmooncrystalacademy.com/how-to-make-shungite-water/</ref> They've made unfounded claims about curing cancer and I really think there should be some mention of that these claims are unfounded. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LordoftheRaccoons|LordoftheRaccoons]] ([[User talk:LordoftheRaccoons#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LordoftheRaccoons|contribs]]) 14:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::Just open an incognito tab and google shungite. First result is a card from Wikipedia, then 3 youtube videos about "healing crystals" then a bunch of Amazon links that claim to block EMF radiation in their description. This isn't a fringe thing. We need to have something about 5G or at the very least its connection to pseudoscience. [[User:LordoftheRaccoons|LordoftheRaccoons]] ([[User talk:LordoftheRaccoons|talk]]) 19:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
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![]() | A fact from Shungite appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 July 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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biological from 2 billion
68.188.203.251 (talk) 18:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC) What life was 98% carbon 2 billion years ago? The stromatolites were alge/limestone? Does a salp, a current carbon sink possibly exist then?
- The pure shungite is thought to represent migrated oil that has been metamorphosed, hence the very high carbon content. Mikenorton (talk) 21:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Shungite rock types: slipped classification categories
The "Terminology" paragraph currently says, "Shungite-bearing rocks have also been classified purely on their carbon content, with Shungite-1 having a carbon content in the range 98-100 weight percent and Shungite-2, -3, -4 and -5 having contents in the ranges 35-80 percent, 20-35 percent, 10-20 percent and less than 10 percent, respectively." (It is referenced with an article from an Elsevier publication with a paywall so I can't check the source.)
So, what d'you call the ore when it's 80-98% carbon? And, is stuff that's 0-10% carbon actually called a type of shungite rock? --Egmonster (talk) 03:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Good question. The quote from the paper is "Borisov (1956) classifies shungite and shungite-bearing rocks by their carbon content. However, his terms, shungite-1 (98–100 wt.% C), shungite-2 (35–80 wt.% C), shungite-3 (20–35 wt. %C), shungite-4 (10–20 wt.% C) and shungite-5 (<10% wt.% C), do not distinguish between shungite and shungite-bearing rocks. Moreover, this widely accepted classification lumps together shungite-bearing rocks, which may have contrasting compositions and lithologies. Shungite-5, for example, may be represented by tuff, dolostone, limestone, chert, basalt or even gabbro." I don't have access to the Borisov publication, so I can only speculate that shungite-bearing rocks range up to a maximum of 80%, whereas the mineral itself is 98% or greater, so no need for a term for 81-97%, but that is a guess. Shungite-5 appears to be anything with a little bit of shungite in it. Mikenorton (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for checking that this quote matches the proximate source's text. I suppose this absurd distribution could be possible, but it seems more likely that a transcription error has interposed between Borisov and here. A classification derived from Borisov and others, Buseck et al 1997, is referenced by other papers, so one could replace the Elsvier nonsense above with that.--Egmonster (talk) 17:20, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Coronavirus-5G Conspiracy Theory
Some big names like Dr DisRespect have been promoting this as a defence against the purported harms of 5G in relation to Coronavirus, wondering if this is more a widespread belief that might warrant a section. Faissaloo (talk) 12:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not now, it's far too early, and probably not in the future - we'll have to see. Mikenorton (talk) 12:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Shungite has been linked to 5G conspiracies in this The Atlantic article by Kaitlyn Tiffany: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/05/great-5g-conspiracy/611317/ 69.42.4.22 (talk) 04:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- I added a brief mention under 'Uses', but I can only reference The Atlantic. I'm unable to find other reputable sources to back anything up. LonelyProgrammer (talk) 02:06, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Removed - would need much better sourcing for such conspiracy cruft. Vsmith (talk) 03:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- The point isn't that shungite actually does anything to 'nullify' 5G, nor that any of the 5G conspiracy is true. It was added because it has become a noteworthy event surrounding shungite. While the claim itself is patently absurd, the reason it is present is because people are making the claim. LonelyProgrammer (talk) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Additionally, Shungite has been a part of the healing crystal wellness scam for years now. [1] They've made unfounded claims about curing cancer and I really think there should be some mention of that these claims are unfounded. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordoftheRaccoons (talk • contribs) 14:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Just open an incognito tab and google shungite. First result is a card from Wikipedia, then 3 youtube videos about "healing crystals" then a bunch of Amazon links that claim to block EMF radiation in their description. This isn't a fringe thing. We need to have something about 5G or at the very least its connection to pseudoscience. LordoftheRaccoons (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Removed - would need much better sourcing for such conspiracy cruft. Vsmith (talk) 03:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)