Talk:Shenzhen

Massage

Um, not to put too fine a point on it, but when the article mentions "massage", does it mean massage, or prostitution?

Second question, where does that image come from? It's clearly not a photograph (or if it is, it's been heavily Photoshopped).

Finally, from what I recall of my brief visit to Shenzhen, the air was very heavily polluted. Is this typical, or did I just go on a really bad day...--Robert Merkel 00:13, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Port

The page says:

The rapid growth of Shenzhen port, its lower labour costs and its proximity to factories in Guangdong province has put pressure on Hong Kong's terminals. Shenzhen's total sea container throughput caught up with Hong Kong's Kwai Chung port in August 2003, when each handled 1.06 million twenty-foot-equivalent units (TEUs) of goods.

Shenzhen has moved more goods than maninland China's busiest port of Shanghai for the second month in September 2003.

According to statistics from The American Association of Port Authorities, in 2002, Shenzhen moved 7.6 million TEUs and Hong Kong moved 19.4 million. It is very difficult to believe that both Shenzhen and Hong Kong's traffic decreated to 1.06 million TEUs by August 2003, and I am more inclined to believe the AAPA on this than the unnamed source of the Wikipedia article. -- Dominus 14:54, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"massage"

In aswer to your question, Mr. Merkel, it does indeed mean prostitution. I lived in southern China for five years and I can tell you firsthand that it is simply a codeword for the world's oldest profession. You know this very well when hotel employees say the word and make rude gestures at the same time. You know it even better when the "masseuse" comes to your door offering her services!

Therefore, I have clarified the point in the article (ATTN: ADMINISTRATORS! You may want to zap that line altogether) by putting, perhaps as you say, too fine a point on it. It now says "prostitution", rather than "massage", complete with a link to that article, if indeed there is one (I haven't checked).

pollution

In answer to your other question, the air in that part of China is often foul. Some days, though, it is worse than others. The current photo was taken on a bad day, good days tending to be the windier ones when most of the smog is blown away.

The photo now with the article seems to have been uploaded after you posted your message.

Setting up of the SEZ

"The one-time fishing village of Shenzhen, singled out by late Chinese paramount leader Deng Xiaoping (鄧小平), is one of the so-called Special Economic Zones (SEZ) of China originally established in 1978 in competition with Hong Kong, then a British colony."

Was it set up to compete with Hong Kong, or to make use of the advantage of its proximity? -- 20:16, January 26, 2005, UTC

Yantian

Do ships going to Yantian have to pass through the waters of Hong Kong's territory? Or do they go detour round Tung Ping Chau? -- 20:36, January 26, 2005, UTC

Why Yale and Jyutping but not IPA?

IPA is the preferred system of marking pronuncations on Wikipedia. -- 20:47, January 26, 2005, UTC

User:Ran changed the text by removing IPA.

BEFORE

Shenzhen (深圳; Sham Chun [Shamchun] in old or Hong Kong documents; pinyin: Shēnzhèn, Cantonese IPA: sɐm1dzɐn3, Yale: sām jan; Jyutping: sam1 zan3; lit. deep drains) is a sub-provincial city of Guangdong province in southern Mainland China, located at the border with Hong Kong.

AFTER

Shenzhen (深圳; Sham Chun [Shamchun] in old or Hong Kong documents; pinyin: Shēnzhèn, Cantonese Jyutping: sam1 zan3, Yale: sām jan; lit. deep drains) is a sub-provincial city of Guangdong province in southern Mainland China, located at the border with Hong Kong.

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